Stephen OppenheimerRecensioni

Peculiar enough...i was reading with russian translation next to it. They even managed once to translate male line as "female", putting the reasoning of entire chapter upside down. Let alone constant references from translators to Bible. Ridiculous and enraging.

Big fat book on an interesting topic , but fails to get off the ground. Too many references, not enough narrative, I got about halfway through and jumped to the conclusion. Which is, more or less, that the original incomers are still around; more recent arrivals, be they Viking or Saxon or Celtic, were relatively few in number, making only slight contributions to the gene pool. But even that gets blurred by delving into the differences between areas, Wales is not the same as Yorkshire - surprised? ,

Bueno, pese a lo cientifico del tema desarrolla la teoría del origen único de la humanidad con bastante fundamento, en algunas oportunidades se vuelve un poco reiterativo, pero en ningún momento decae el interés,

Easy to understand but difficult to accept. Calls on a very wide range of sources from geology, archeology, linguistics, genetics and ancient myths. But where is the physical evidence? Provocative, but not persuasive.

This is a synthesis of genetics, archaeology and climatology that looks at how and where our ultimate ancestors could have lived. Stephen Oppenheimer presents a plausible theory about the earliest days of man. It is categorised as popular science but it is not always an easy read and, for me, some of the chapters dragged. Worth reading but I do not think it should be read without some knowledge of the topic.

The Origins of the British still make for contentious and fascinating debate amongst the people of these isles and this work adds strongly to the discussion. The purpose of the book appears to be to establish genetic analysis to the existing archaelogical and linguistic history built up over the centuries. Genetics is clearly still in it's infancy but it is a massive step forward in understanding the past.

Oppenheimer's work lays out the genetic influences of the British population (excluding post-WWII immigration) and his findings are well worth knowing. The genetic analysis sets out the post-Ice Age colonisation phases and the most significant plus points of the book are the genetic debunking of wipeout theories and the co-existance of Germanic, Scandinavian, and Celtic peoples in Britain.

The spread of western European peoples from Ice Age refuges and the development of culture and language inevitably means that the peoples of those countries are somewhat similar. What Oppenheimer's analysis of the genetic research shows is that there are observable differences and that those differences can trace a history of Britain that has had far less intrusion from overseas than is typically suggested.

There are two issues that I have with the book - the writing is not of the highest quality and the genetics themselves are not well explained. The writing does not flow and is tough going, I did feel as though I was reading a dissertation at times and not an especially well written one. This is not really popular science and the logical chain is not easy to follow as Oppenheimer leaps into asides and tangents.

I really do though wish that the genetics had been better and more fully exposed. Traditional history is interesting but hardly new. The movement of genes deserved a fuller treatment and there is not one point in Oppenheimer's work in which he lays out explicitly the genetic map of Britain.

Overall, this is the sort of book to read if you really do want to delve into some of the science and the emerging picture that genetics paints of north western Europe. It is not a light read and it raises more questions than it answers but the broad overview that the detail conjures is a great platform for better understanding who we British are.½

1.5 stars is my code for 'I gave up'. I got as far as page 140 or so trying to ignore all the errors in linguistics, then 'sub-structural' for 'substratal' was just too much for me. The stuff on genetics may well be fine, and I didn't get far enough to encounter much history.½

Oppenheimer advances a theory of the origin of the British people based on analysis of genetics. His analysis bring him to say that most of the Irish, Welsh, Scottish and English people arrived just after the ice age, and that Celtic and Saxons and Angles were not a major invasion; Celtics were not from southern Germany and were never in England. If he is right quite a number of other books needs to be rewritten! Oppenheimer bases much of his argument on his own analysis of y-chromosome distribution across Europe. He seems to identify his own haplotypes - that are not described in detail. Furthermore he uses some kind of kernel density modeling where it is not apparent how much variation in the estimate there is.

Book argues that three entry sites into the UK after the last ice age. Founder populations in the west from Spain, south east, Germanic and north west from north east Europe set the pattern which other cultural/linguistic movements followed. But a tad over technical for a general book

And the English language reflects the pre and Roman period German roots and not evidence of a Celtic ethnic cleansing.So you Celts are really escaped from Spain and were not driven out of England by the post Romans invasions...so there!

A difficult, technical book, more so than Oppenheimer's 'Out of Eden', but still well worth the effort if you are interested in British prehistory. Genetic markers reveal where the people of Britain came from and when they came.

Genetic markers allow the family trees of human groups to be constructed going back a hundred thousand years or more. The distribution of these markers across the continents allow the movements of human groups to be tracked over this time. This is fascinating and important stuff. But prepared to concentrate: this is not an easy read.½

The genetic core of the book is completely unintelligible to me. He raises some very interesting questions about the existence of germanic speaking peoples in South East Britain prior to (and during) the Roman Occupation. He brings in some interesting linguistic, archaeological and historical evidence in support of his theories; but this is pretty selective and I am not sure how careful he has been with it. He certainly can't be bothered to check how Tess Durbeyfield spelt her name.

I should like to see how he explains the accounts of the arrival of South Saxons under Aelle and his sons.

It's also annoying that he talks about England and Wessex &c. anachronistically. Still maybe GK Chesterton actually knew something when he wrote

"Before the Roman came to Rye or out to Severn strode,
The rolling English drunkard made the rolling English road."

remarkably well researched but still little-known thesis. Oppenheimer posits a continent in south-east Asia submerged in the last Ice Age, isolating the modern day island groups of Indonesia and Borneo. This continent (which he calls Sundaland) was perhaps the cradle of Asian civilisation.

Oppenheimer presents an astonishing array of evidence - historic, linguistic and genetic - in support of his claim. He also lends strong support to the now orthodox position that Polynesian migrations took place from west to east, not vice versa as claimed by Thor Heyerdahl.