Group read: Ship of Destiny by Robin Hobb - The Liveship Trilogy
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1souloftherose
Welcome to our group read of Robin Hobb's Realm of the Elderlings series. This is the thread to discuss Ship of Destiny the sixth book in the Realm of the Elderlings series and the third and final book in The Liveship trilogy, in November/December.
Link back to the main group read organisation thread with a full series listing and timetable.
Please use the spoiler tags (<spoiler>spoilery comments</spoiler>) and also include the chapter in bold so people who are reading along know whether it's safe to read the spoilers.
Link back to the main group read organisation thread with a full series listing and timetable.
Please use the spoiler tags (<spoiler>spoilery comments</spoiler>) and also include the chapter in bold so people who are reading along know whether it's safe to read the spoilers.
2souloftherose
I won't be reading this one until December but I know some people were planning to read this in November.
3HanGerg
I've finished the whole trilogy now! Well worth it, although it was hard going in places. I have some thoughts to share if anyone else is interested? Can we just slip this one in before the end of the year?
So, I read a review on the book page that said something like "Even the villains think they are the heroes of their own story" and that sums it up brilliantly I think. There is so much depth to the characters, who are all acting in ways that make sense for them as people, rather than that propel the plot forward. I realised reading this that it's actually really rare that authors do that. Usually we just accept that characters do certain things because it fulfils the logic of the story, rather than being true to who they are. Similarly, some really bad stuff happens to our main characters ( I am thinking of one particularly bad thing that happens to one particular character; you will know exactly what I mean if you've read the book), that doesn't normally happen to main characters. It normally happens to minor characters and the main characters somehow escape it, by being that extra bit lucky, or brave, or just fated for better. Nothing of the sort here, and it's brave and bold and powerful writing when a writer challenges those conventions and pulls it off, which I think Hobb does here brilliantly.
The downside to all that is, because the books are so realistic in this way, there are no neat solutions, and that's why everything takes hundreds and hundreds of pages to resolve, and can drag a bit as a result. But the complexity of the world she creates is worth that extra work, I think. Where do we go next? I'm eager to carry on in 2019!
So, I read a review on the book page that said something like "Even the villains think they are the heroes of their own story" and that sums it up brilliantly I think. There is so much depth to the characters, who are all acting in ways that make sense for them as people, rather than that propel the plot forward. I realised reading this that it's actually really rare that authors do that. Usually we just accept that characters do certain things because it fulfils the logic of the story, rather than being true to who they are. Similarly, some really bad stuff happens to our main characters ( I am thinking of one particularly bad thing that happens to one particular character; you will know exactly what I mean if you've read the book), that doesn't normally happen to main characters. It normally happens to minor characters and the main characters somehow escape it, by being that extra bit lucky, or brave, or just fated for better. Nothing of the sort here, and it's brave and bold and powerful writing when a writer challenges those conventions and pulls it off, which I think Hobb does here brilliantly.
The downside to all that is, because the books are so realistic in this way, there are no neat solutions, and that's why everything takes hundreds and hundreds of pages to resolve, and can drag a bit as a result. But the complexity of the world she creates is worth that extra work, I think. Where do we go next? I'm eager to carry on in 2019!
