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1Collectorator
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4AnnieMod
Ott 30, 2016, 5:02 pm

>2 Collectorator: Are these all from the previous thread or do I need to start there?

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6AnnieMod
Ott 30, 2016, 6:12 pm

>5 Collectorator: Yeah, figured. I was asking if these are all of them (aka do I need to go to Page 3 and start there or are these all the ones from there)? :)

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13AnnieMod
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>8 Collectorator: to >12 Collectorator:

None of those seem to have any issues left to fix.

Same for >3 Collectorator:

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17AnnieMod
Nov 2, 2016, 8:12 pm

>15 Collectorator: done (just a bit too many places to clear the gender :) )
>16 Collectorator: done - just needed cleanup - data was already moved

18Collectorator
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19AnnieMod
Nov 3, 2016, 12:35 am

Ugh - and no way to leave them a message to tell them to stop destroying people's work - and either to leave them alone or move them properly...

20amanda4242
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21Lyndatrue
Nov 3, 2016, 1:46 am

>18 Collectorator: and >19 AnnieMod: I've noticed this person, recently, flagging all sorts of covers as inapplicable to a work, merely for the audacity of not having the name of the work printed on the front of the cover. I own many books that are from an era where the title *might* be printed on the spine, or even just inside, and not externally at all.

I also notice that the same personage goes to the bother of adding BOTH canonical title, and original title, to a work that had a title not in question (honestly, if there's only 4 people that even *own* the danged thing, I'm pretty sure no one is going to confuse it with much of anything).

Gah.

It's okay, I'm over it now. It's just annoying.

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24amanda4242
Nov 3, 2016, 2:35 am

Someone should let Lorannen about them.

25KoobieKitten
Nov 3, 2016, 11:31 am

What LyndaTrue stated about the cover flagging is patently untrue, and I have cleared this up with her privately. LyndraTrue, please direct your comments regarding Canonical Titles to Collectorator, as this is something she does far more than I. In fact, you will notice she does this when she is the only owner of a book on LT. Any time I have done this, it actually is because the title was not displaying correctly. I always edit my copy locally first, then recalculate. If the work-level title is still incorrect, then I will fix it with CK. Typically the problem is the title displaying series information, which Tim has stated is one of the main reasons for fixing Canonical Titles.

As for all other activities, I have simply done what Collectorator had done over the years, and could point all of you to her edit history and to numerous threads in which she plainly states she has done these things. I've even used her preferred disambiguation wording, which she promptly deletes. I mistakenly believed that because this person was so active that they knew what they were doing. Interestingly, starting last month Collectorator decided to begin stalking all of my edits. She has been removing very legitimate CK left and right. I suspect this is why she hasn't "reported" me yet. The history logs will show that she began this strange CK war with me for no reason (as she often does with random LT members, and is evidenced by her comments page and innumerable talk threads). I would gladly talk with LT staff about this.

If I have made mistakes, I am happy to learn from them and correct them. I expect others to do as well, and to be respectful of each other's efforts.

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28Lyndatrue
Nov 3, 2016, 12:29 pm

>25 KoobieKitten: Well, I've seen many of your flagging efforts, and have actually voted against many of them. I had paid far less attention to flagging until one of my (painstakingly scanned in) book covers was flagged.

http://www.librarything.com/work/16922/book/111808117

The thing is, there's no way to unring that bell. Some of the things you've flagged *were* wrong. I always ALWAYS prefer the benefit of the doubt on flagging covers, and only agree with those that appear to be egregious. I have voted undecided on a few, as well.

Mind you, since flagging has ABSOLUTELY NO CURRENT EFFECT on covers, it's more of a notification that something's rotten in the data, rather than any accomplishment. My concern is not for now, but for the future. If it ever suddenly becomes meaningful, all this flagging may have the effect of taking perfectly valid covers out of the list of covers.

The only current effect of flagging covers is to let others know that it's been noticed. I've flagged plenty of them myself. I almost never flag blank covers (for the reasons I've already stated), unless it's obviously not a cover at all (and not always even then).

Sorry your feelings are hurt, but consider that this is a shared space, and NOT just your private playground.

As a footnote, I often see covers that are in the list for this book which I know don't really mactch:

http://www.librarything.com/work/105833/book/111793903

That book (and several others) is from the "New Pocket Library" collection, and contains a slightly different collection of short stories than do others in the group. Heck, in some cases, the covers in that group are of collected authors (i.e. stories in which Poe is one of the authors). It doesn't hurt me, and I don't find it important enough to go searching among them to flag them all as inapplicable. When you have an author whose works were out of copyright (and during a certain time period, the copyright laws were confusing, at best), then you get a thousand different "collected" works, depending on what might sell.

Feh. Enough.

30KoobieKitten
Modificato: Nov 3, 2016, 5:11 pm

Edit to say that this comment is in response to >28 Lyndatrue:

As I said in my private comment to you, I have on occasion mistakenly hit the flag button when I should not have, and I have voted against my own flags when this has happened (as has everyone else). The example you have linked to has been flagged as inapplicable by user AnnaClaire, has one vote of yes by starwing, and one vote of no by you. I have not voted on it yet, but I would also vote no on this one.

As for your second point, I'm not sure what to take from that other than if someone were to flag those covers, the flags would be correct. Am I missing something?

I'm not sure where you're getting that my feelings are hurt. They aren't. But if someone is saying that I've done something that I haven't ("recently, flagging all sorts of covers as inapplicable to a work, merely for the audacity of not having the name of the work printed on the front of the cover"), then I will refute it.

I do consider that it is a shared space, thus my original comment in this thread: "If I have made mistakes, I am happy to learn from them and correct them. I expect others to do as well, and to be respectful of each other's efforts." You may want to make sure Collectorator is listening though, since they have such a storied history involving deleting the efforts so many have made over the years, and with no good faith attempts to remedy her errors. (A few of many examples here: https://www.librarything.com/topic/219966#5760319 and here: https://www.librarything.com/topic/219966#5759015 and here: https://www.librarything.com/topic/219966#5760356)

Since you would prefer to discuss it here, I will copy/paste my original private messages to you below:

1) Hello, I noticed a strange comment you made regarding my cover flagging activity. You stated that I have recently flagged covers that did not have the title present on the cover itself. This is not something I have done at all, and in fact I actively avoid doing this as I know that the majority of books with these covers are in fact applicable to the book. I do flag covers quite a bit, and it's probable that I've made the occasional mistake (when I do, I vote no against my original flag). But overall I do very much try to take great care when cover flagging. Thank you

2) I realized you may have been referring to all of those generic maroon/dark red covers that LT uses in place of the actual flagged cover when the cover won't load. I believe that is a bug. If you visit the book in question and click through to the various covers, you will see that the flags were actually made appropriately (wrong book or not a cover at all). However, even if the flag were for that dark red cover that had no title and author info, it should still be flagged, because it is a generic LT cover that can be chosen by the user for any book (see the bottom of the cover page for any book on LT). These are always available, but they should not be in the member uploaded covers. But as I said, the recent flagging I have done was a case of many cover images not loading properly (all Amazon covers by the way), and LT throws that generic cover up on the cover flagging log / vote page when this occurs.

31KoobieKitten
Nov 3, 2016, 4:50 pm

>27 Collectorator: I have no problem with that. Unfortunately, I am on my break at work right now, so I won't be able to get to it until the evening.

33AnnieMod
Nov 3, 2016, 5:44 pm

>25 KoobieKitten: As for all other activities, I have simply done what Collectorator had done over the years

What are we, 4 years olds? "Miss teacher, she started it so do not blame me"? Why would you remove VALID CK and not move it to the proper place (regardless of what someone did or did not do in the past)? I do not care what you and Collectorator are feuding about (or think you are) but in this case, the authors that you "fixed" here were ones with data in them - data that is now lost because you decided to just remove it instead of move it over. You decided to punish a whole set of editors and delete their data just because someone deleted your data? I would opt for a "you did not know how to fix it so you just deleted it" explanation for now - but if you continue doing it, I would need to really start thinking that you are destroying other people's work on purpose and maliciously.

*deep breath*

So let's talk about the data you removed from all those authors above? If a CK entry is trapped in an internal page, copy it to the proper page (so if an author is split to -1 and -2 and so on, find which one it belongs to and copy it there). If you cannot find who it belongs to or do not want to find it, please leave it as it is and come and post the link to the author here so someone else can find it and move it properly. Or ignore it. But do not just delete it because you cannot figure out where to put it. If you do not know how to move between authors, please ask. LT is a shared resource - we all volunteer our time to make it better and seeing data removed just for the sake of removal is rude.

34KoobieKitten
Nov 3, 2016, 7:06 pm

>33 AnnieMod: You are correct, essentially the explanation is that I didn't know how to fix it, so I deleted it, although it's a little more nuanced. Before I started these I looked at what you and others had been doing, which was dividing the author if divisions were needed and removing CK when it was in more than one place (I do hope I am understanding this correctly now). I completely missed a key part of it though - the part where you move information. I had already done some that had the disambiguation info there before I started, and I got into a groove of doing things, but then didn't realize "Crap, some of these don't have disambiguation and I need to move this info over there." It was entirely by accident. I would never in a million years want to destroy someone's information. It's entirely antithetical to who I am. I've learned I should never try new things on LT when it's late and I'm tired.

Also, I need to clear up what I meant by the quote you mentioned from my first message. What I meant by that was originally, long before Collectorator started to stalk my edits, I actually did look to this person as a guide for what to do and not do. I looked elsewhere as well, particularly to Tim. I generally do not partake in Talk threads, but I do search and read them when I have a question or concern. Whether she knew it or not, her philosophies and past actions had actually influenced my edits here on LT a great deal. Recently I noticed some of the comments on Collectorator's page where she had clearly done some wrong things, so I decided I should see if it was a widespread issue or not. I searched and found threads like this: https://www.librarything.com/topic/207134#5370851
Quote: "At one time the page was split, because there were also works by her daughter, Mary Shelley, on it. As a result the CK on the original page is then marked as "deleted". In june of this year the separation has been undone by Collectorator, presumably because there were no longer works by the daughter on it.
Fortunately, I was able to retrieve the CK on the split author's page and transfer it to the undivided page."

Then we have things like this:
Message 31 in this thread written by Collectorator "changing an author name from a legitimate one to "No Author" and placing this disambiguation notice on the legitimate author: "Coloring Book" is not an author. If your book appears on this page, please edit your information to include the author's full name. Your book should then appear on the correct author page. Thank you for your help."

A Coloring Book is a format, not an author. It's not even a corporate author.

However, we have Collectorator here, just days ago, taking a real person who has authored musical works, and putting this in the disambiguation page repeatedly: "A name must have been catalogued on LT in order for that name to have a proper page. Slapping up some letters and then putting a canonical name on it does not an author make."
http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/changelog.php?item=16235323&type...
This literally makes no sense. Obviously someone cataloged his works on LT, and you can see that is true on the author page.

After I realized this was a huge issue I began changing my approach, and strangely, after I began changing my approach Collectorator starting coming after my edits and undoing them entirely. Like this one, that actually is correct and should be there since the person also goes by a pseudonym: https://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/changelog.php?item=11666666&typ....
It's not even the oft bemoaned Canonical Author field that she is deleting, but the person's legal name.
There are several others just like this one (Tanith Lee and Austin Osman Spare come to mind).

I can promise you that I never decided to punish a whole set of editors based on one person. The author combinations have nothing to do with that. Collectorator wanted to call my attention to something, and when I finally saw it this morning, I responded - at that point the thread had changed topic a bit though, so I thought it pertinent to bring this other information up and refute the false claims regarding cover flagging.

In message 31 I have already said that I will gladly fix those authors. There aren't a ton to fix, but I do not get home from work until after 9:00pm CST. So, if I am to fix these, it will have to wait a little bit. If I cannot finish them all tonight, you know where I will be spending my Friday evening!

Collectorator, as for this one: http://www.librarything.com/work/9566440/editions
There's of course no way for you to know this, but I had bookmarked it so I could come back to it and fix it this weekend (including a couple of others, like those coloring books). The author is currently wrong, true. But the author is not just "Stone" either. You can see that from one of the author names in the editions you linked to. It is most likely supposed to be Stone Von Getty, but I planned on checking the Library of Congress Name Authority Files (http://authorities.loc.gov/) before making that change and combining the book (if needed), since it wasn't entirely clear if that really was the correct author name. I can refrain from changing the author name like this in the future, but in this instance I saw that you had changed it to Stone, which was also not right. Of course two wrongs don't make a right - that's not the point. I know you can't read my mind and know that I have it bookmarked to come back to when I've gathered more information. It just seemed weird to me to change it to Stone, and then write on the author disambiguation page that Stone is not an author. The thing to do would be to find the correct author for the book and fix it.

Same with all of those "Title Here WITH WRONG COVER" Canonical Titles you've been putting on books. The thing to do would be to not use the words "WITH WRONG COVER" in the Canonical Title, for obvious reasons. The title should probably be left alone (unless it has other errors, the wrong cover should be flagged, the correct cover uploaded, and then the cover should be recalculated. Alternately, there are some cases where the book can be combined, or sometimes separated, and then the cover should be recalculated. Any of these solutions work, depending on the book in question.

Example here:
http://www.librarything.com/work/14220101
http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/changelog.php?item=14220101&type...

And here's one that now has the correct cover thanks to combining, but none of the wrong covers have been flagged, and it still has "WITH WRONG COVER" as the Canonical Title:
http://www.librarything.com/work/2615838
http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/changelog.php?item=2615838&type=...

35Collectorator
Nov 3, 2016, 7:32 pm

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38KoobieKitten
Nov 3, 2016, 7:39 pm

I wasn't the author of that quote.
I have no problem with the split/unsplit stuff that this other person is talking about.
I was using the quote to illustrate an overall pattern of behavior, that of deleting other people's valid and useful CK for years now.
But let's all get worked up about a relatively small amount of CK that was admittedly erroneously deleted in one night. Makes sense.

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41KoobieKitten
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>37 Collectorator: I actually never said a thing in that disambiguation edit. All I did was remove your error, which you kept insisting on putting back long after it was obvious that there was a cataloged work there.

edit: referring to the Philip Kang author.

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44AnnieMod
Nov 3, 2016, 7:47 pm

>34 KoobieKitten:

Not removing - moving - which just a log won't show if you are not looking for it. If you look at the log you will see it being removed from one place but added to another. See one of the ones I fixed yesterday: the data deleted from here http://www.librarything.com/author/griffinannie is now here: http://www.librarything.com/author/griffinannie-2 :) As I said - I am going to accept that you did miss the second part of the process and it was not malicious. But feel free to ask - everyone here will come back and tell you if you are missing a part of the process (hell - in early days I posted a process once and asked the more experienced users if there is something I am missing in it).

So the problem is that when you divide an author, you cannot have CK on the divided page (except for a disambig note). The reason is that CK belongs to a person and this page now do not belong to just one. So the idea of this cleanup effort is to find where the data goes - not because it is repeated but because it is not where it belongs.

There is also a second case: Author A and B get combined under A and both have CK. In some cases the software will merge the data but in some some of it will remain stranded under B. Same process as with the split ones - except that now you are moving TO the main page and not away from it.

For the rest - it is between you and Collectorator - honestly. There was a time when me and Collectorator were barking at each other in threads. I don't always agree with some of the practices. But that does not make me go and do something because Collectorator is making it :)

And do not read too much into some notes. Sometimes an author needs unsplitting. Sometimes it better stay split even if it looks like it is not needed now (because we will need it next week again when that nasty book that aliasing takes care of shows up uninvited again). It is subjective sometimes. Talk usually solves it. :)

One more thing: As it is, there is NO way for anyone to leave you a quick note on your profile. You may want to think about opening your comments on your account -- this way instead of escalating you can talk to people a lot earlier. When I saw all the deletions, IF I could have left you a message, I would have - asking you why you delete and do not move and we would have cleared that very fast.... Your choice :)

>36 Collectorator:
Adding the legal name won't kill anyone - it is just an information field. So what if it is added again? :) Canonical names have consequences. Legal names? Not really. Let's try to find compromises, shall we? No harm, nothing breaks and it is actually correct information? Leave it be. That may save another editor from looking up to see if the Legal name is not by chance different.

45KoobieKitten
Nov 3, 2016, 7:50 pm

Collectorator, I am open to your suggestions. But I am curious what you mean when you say that an author does not need certain names. When you have authors that have pseudonyms or that have a different canonical name from their legal name (like Tanith Lee), at a certain point when people begin adding more of their works, combining works, or even just recalculating their works, the author's name on the Author Page can and often will change from what it should be (the Canonical Name). In all three of these examples, this is true.

I understand that a person that writes and is legally known only by one name does not "need" these fields filled out.

But by that logic, these fields do not "need" to be deleted either.

It seems like a lesson in LOC Name Authority Files would be very helpful. Ex: https://lccn.loc.gov/n79041851 (read the "Found In" section for pseudonyms). The Personal name heading serves the exact same purpose as LT's Canonical Author field does. Sometimes the Personal name heading matches the legal name, sometimes it does not.

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48AnnieMod
Nov 3, 2016, 8:00 pm

>45 KoobieKitten:

Canonical name has a slightly different effect in LT - especially across language versions of LT. If you set the Canonical name in English it becomes the name for this author in ALL language versions - Japanese, Russian, Bulgarian, you name it - regardless of what alphabet they use otherwise. When CN is not added, LT calculates based on languages and sometimes manages to show the Russian name for the author when you are on the Russian version of LT (in some places better than in others). When you set the CN, you are disabling that ability - and telling LT not to calculate but to use this one. If the name is very wrong or bleeds from another site, setting it fixes it (and it makes a mess elsewhere but the main one is fine) but if you are setting it where it is not needed, you are messing up non-English displays.

Additionally it makes it really hard to find underlying issues into author combinations - because instead of seeing what the name is, you see the CN.

Hope this makes some sense and helps.

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50AnnieMod
Modificato: Nov 3, 2016, 8:12 pm

>47 Collectorator:

Legal names in CK do not create author entries in the DB unless if someone catalogs a book under the legal name - and then it does not really matter that it is also a legal name - it creates record in the CK (which is the point)... So what are you talking about?

PS: http://www.librarything.com/author/dickenscharles-1 in case you do not believe me that it does not create author entries. Show me where the author entry for the full name is created and I will apologize :)

51Collectorator
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52AnnieMod
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>51 Collectorator:
This is not because of the legal name but because of the fact that once upon a time, it was a canonical name: http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/changelog.php?item=5207069&type=... :)

3 days is not long enough for the reindex to forget it after you deleted it.

Legal names are not found in Author Search (they are found able in CK search of course) - look for "Dickens, Charles John Huffam" The only three that show are stranded empty authors that actually have the names.

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Nov 3, 2016, 8:34 pm

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54KoobieKitten
Nov 3, 2016, 8:46 pm

>44 AnnieMod: Thank you AnnieMod, much appreciated.

I've never had my profile private before or disallowed comments until recently. I'm sure you can guess why... I was really sad to do that, but when my edits stop being stalked for some time, I will put it back to public.

55AnnieMod
Nov 3, 2016, 8:47 pm

>53 Collectorator:

But it also stops another person from going "Hm, Bob Smith. Too common. Let me see if he has another surname to add to his legal name. Oh, he has no other names. Oh well." Now once someone does the search, the next person sees it is already done. :) Lacking a "same as name" checkbox, repeating is the only option. :)

If you do not like them, do not add them. But don't remove them either - or we are back into "who decides what is cruft and what is not" :) Next thing you know I will say that if the author name is Margaret, there is no point adding that they are female :)

56KoobieKitten
Nov 3, 2016, 8:48 pm

>49 Collectorator: I brought up the LOC Name Authorities not because LT works the same exact way, but because they are helpful when writing CK on Author Pages.

57KoobieKitten
Modificato: Nov 4, 2016, 12:34 am

>46 Collectorator:

"But still you don't get it! Someone else was seemingly upset about something I did that was Not Wrong, and you want to yak about a pattern of behavior? Okay, ya, people get upset for no reason all the time. That's their pattern of behavior, but this example you are trumpeting has nothing to do with my pattern of behavior except maybe to show that when an author page does not need to be split, you can by golly count on Collectorator to bust in there and unsplit it."

You are conveniently focusing on this one issue I provided as an example, when there was a whole host of others linked. I can find more, if you like. I'd rather not spend my time that way, but I can.

"Good luck with replacing that small amount of data. And I suppose we can assume you will henceforth cease and desist on your proven pattern of behavior?"

What proven pattern of behavior might this be? Making an error sometimes, admitting it, and correcting it? That probably will happen again at some point.
Also, I specifically said *relatively* small amount of data, meaning it is small in comparison to all the CK you've so helpfully erased over the years.

>42 Collectorator: Pardon me, my memory was faulty. What you wrote was "If your book appears on this page, please edit your information to include the author's full name. Your book should then appear on the correct author page. Thank you for your help.
#1 Stone (musical group)"
http://www.librarything.com/author/stone

You can actually fix the author that is used when the author attribution is incorrect. To not fix it but make other edits to the book, especially when you can easily see what the real author's full name is, strikes me as very strange.

>43 Collectorator: "I think several people might agree with you about the "With Wrong Cover" thing, but it's ratty data so I do what I can to keep it off the good page. Like it or not."

and >53 Collectorator: "So, I will continue to delete legal names that are exact duplicates of the natural LT-given name."

Collectorator in a nutshell. "I don't like when other people make mistakes. But when I deliberately do things that go against rules and standard practice, so what. I'm going to keep doing it anyway."

Good job.

58KoobieKitten
Modificato: Nov 3, 2016, 11:18 pm

Upon further investigation, both the book title and the author were wrong. The book's title is "Heroes: Stone" and the author is a corporate author, Getty Images. The layout of the typeface on the title page makes this confusing, but I've searched several places now, and these do appear to be the correct title and author. I have fixed this now.

I've also begun fixing some of the CK in the authors named above. I most likely will not get very far this evening because everything in my household decided to descend into chaos tonight, but I will return to fix anything I can't get to tonight on Friday.

59Collectorator
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60KoobieKitten
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Funny, I had fixed this two hours ago, and now it's back to having the incorrect title and author, Heroes by Stone. How utterly odd. And it only took nine minutes for it to return to the incorrect title and author! I think someone has a little obsession with me. ;)
http://www.librarything.com/work/9566440
http://www.librarything.com/commonknowledge/changelog.php?item=9566440&type=...

All the authors mentioned in message 27 have been fixed. Feel free to vandalize them, Collectorator. I included all of the Legal Names that were mistakenly deleted, just for you.

61Collectorator
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62AnnieMod
Nov 4, 2016, 10:25 pm

>61 Collectorator:

There is another explanation - an edit somewhere. Otherwise the Dickens example (set on 2013) would work as well.
Will look it up later - and will actually ask Tim what the query looks at.

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85Noisy
Nov 29, 2016, 9:26 am

>83 Collectorator: I've done Rebecca Campbell. I did some others as well some time ago, but I can't remember which ones. (I was bored.)

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91Noisy
Dic 1, 2016, 4:25 am

>88 Collectorator: Ah, I was a bit over-enthusiastic. I've been round the loop again and re-built the groupings. hiebertpg is the only one that I haven't been able to identify as being the same as one of the other two contenders.

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992wonderY
Dic 8, 2016, 9:17 am

Collectorator,

Since you are no longer accepting comments on your profile, I'm leaving a note for you here.

I'd appreciate if you wouldn't un-do my disambiguation work. As I separated Christina Moore, I found three persons by that name, and wrote the disambig notice accordingly. You really didn't give me time to add a work for Christina Moore (3) before editing and removing all reference to her.

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1012wonderY
Dic 8, 2016, 9:40 am

There is a 3. I was going to add a work by her, but I didn't want to have to re-do the disambig notice. It feels like you're stalking to have un-done my work so fast.

102Collectorator
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1032wonderY
Dic 8, 2016, 10:53 am

>102 Collectorator: So give me some credit that I know what I'm doing, please.

104lilithcat
Dic 8, 2016, 11:03 am

>102 Collectorator:

You should give it a day or so before "fixing" things to make sure that it's not still being worked on.

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106AnnieMod
Dic 8, 2016, 5:01 pm

>105 Collectorator: Fixed. Probably took less time than it took to post the message here :)

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110Noisy
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>107 Collectorator: Done - shouldn't have been split.

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1172wonderY
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Collectorator, just to let you know I'll be editing your disambiguation notice for Thomas Wright.

I see you're following closely on my work. I've confirmed from the author's agent and LinkedIn pages that Thomas Wright (8) is in fact the author of Circulation, published in 2012. So your disambig note is incorrect. Would you like to choose another title for Thomas Wright (2)?

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140leselotte
Gen 20, 2017, 1:00 pm

>128 Collectorator: Uwe Timm done

141AnnieMod
Gen 20, 2017, 3:56 pm

>2 Collectorator: (can we number those when they are in a list like that so it is easier to post what is done?:) )
http://www.librarything.com/author/finchroger - fixed (non-English entry was the only one still standing)
http://www.librarything.com/author/stpaul - fixed plus a link issue with a hiding subdivision fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/fredericharold - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/lornemarquisof - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/greenfieldsusan - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/knowleselizabeth - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/fred - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/deanmatt- fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/mcdowelljohn - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/ruffmatt - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/griffinkeith - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/frasernancy - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/woodbenjamin - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/jensencarsten - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/challisgeorge - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/werneralfred - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/halljustin - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/charlesjohnd - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/macleanron - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/kellerwerner - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/weberanne - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/stanleypaul - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/maguiresteve - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/mcclintockbarbara - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/lewisgwyneth - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/sinclairandrew - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/toulminharry - fixed

** http://www.librarything.com/author/woodnick - still researching who is who so just parking it here so I do not forget it
** same for http://www.librarything.com/author/warrenkenneth (may be even the removed alias and not one of the now existing ones)
** same for http://www.librarything.com/author/thomassue - needs more research
** same for http://www.librarything.com/author/gibsonrosemary

And that is all from that post I think. Except the 4 above that need work.

More later. Note to self - next is >63 Collectorator:

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146AnnieMod
Gen 27, 2017, 2:55 pm

>145 Collectorator: - fixed
>144 Collectorator: - fixed (the remaining data was trapped under German - someone had moved the English already)
>131 Collectorator: - fixed
>130 Collectorator: - fixed (non-localized German data - already moved under the proper language)
>129 Collectorator: - fixed (data already moved, cleanup only left)
>125 Collectorator: - already fixed
>124 Collectorator: - fixed
>122 Collectorator: - fixed (cleanup only remained)
>121 Collectorator: - fixed
>120 Collectorator: - fixed
>119 Collectorator: - already fixed
>115 Collectorator: - fixed

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150AnnieMod
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>149 Collectorator: - someone already fixed that one (seems like someone just deleted all the data?)
>148 Collectorator: - fixed
>147 Collectorator: - had been already fixed
>143 Collectorator: - fixed
>132 Collectorator: - fixed
>116 Collectorator: - fixed
>113 Collectorator: - fixed
>109 Collectorator: - fixed
>108 Collectorator: - did not need any fixes in the usual area but had a few authors to never (which moved some links that needed fixing. Should look fine now)
>98 Collectorator: - fixed
>97 Collectorator: - fixed
>96 Collectorator: - fixed (cleanup only needed)
>94 Collectorator: - fixed (cleanup only needed)
>90 Collectorator: - fixed
>89 Collectorator: - fixed
>86 Collectorator: - fixed
>84 Collectorator: - fixed
>82 Collectorator: - fixed
>81 Collectorator: - fixed
>80 Collectorator: - already fixed
>79 Collectorator: - already fixed. Now http://www.librarything.com/author/rothmichael also fixed
>78 Collectorator: - fixed
>77 Collectorator: - fixed
>76 Collectorator: - already fixed
>75 Collectorator: - already fixed
>74 Collectorator: - fixed
>73 Collectorator: - fixed
>72 Collectorator: - fixed
>71 Collectorator: - already fixed
>70 Collectorator: - fixed
>69 Collectorator: - fixed a few minutes ago somewhere in the higher numbers :)
>67 Collectorator: - fixed (only cleanup was needed)
>64 Collectorator: - already fixed but had links and nevers to be done
>59 Collectorator: - fixed
>2 Collectorator: http://www.librarything.com/author/woodnick - finally figured out who is who...

Still unknown which part the data belongs to (these should be all the remaining ones from all posts above). Will be working on those when I have a chance:
>63 Collectorator: http://www.librarything.com/author/fisherandrew
>65 Collectorator: http://www.librarything.com/author/graynigel
>66 Collectorator: http://www.librarything.com/author/smithpaul
>95 Collectorator: http://www.librarything.com/author/hofmannmichael -- done in >159 AnnieMod:
>114 Collectorator: http://www.librarything.com/author/legrandlouis
>127 Collectorator: http://www.librarything.com/author/richtermax

The remaining from >2 Collectorator:
http://www.librarything.com/author/warrenkenneth
http://www.librarything.com/author/gibsonrosemary
http://www.librarything.com/author/thomassue

Collectorator,

If you see any that is not on my list above but is still not handled, can you please let me know - it is getting to be a long thread so I am going to use that list is a base of what is remaining above this post. Thanks!

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163AnnieMod
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>156 Collectorator: - fixed
>158 Collectorator: - fixed
>160 Collectorator: - fixed
>161 Collectorator: - fixed
>162 leselotte: - fixed (can you strike through the name when you come back so I know it is done later?)

>63 Collectorator: - this CK data does not belong to anyone that is now in the split - an a search through all other Andrew Fishers did not find one matching either. So the 3 entries deleted...
>65 Collectorator: - fixed - found the matching Ireland/Australian guy (-1 in that case)
>66 Collectorator: - fixed (it was -9 - he needed some adjustments in the disambig note as well)
>114 Collectorator: - fixed (missing split - there was a third author hiding there and that was who the CK belonged to)
>127 Collectorator: - none of the Max Richters we have in the split is Swiss - and a quick look through similar names on the site did not find him either. No dates of birth and death either to help so just cleaned up the 3 entries.
>95 Collectorator: was already fixed up in >159 AnnieMod:

And from >2 Collectorator:
http://www.librarything.com/author/warrenkenneth - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/gibsonrosemary - fixed
http://www.librarything.com/author/thomassue - fixed

Which should be bringing this thread to current with nothing remaining above.

164leselotte
Feb 2, 2017, 5:14 pm

>163 AnnieMod: Done! Thank you so much for all that work!

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168thomson3
Apr 22, 2017, 4:39 am

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