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The discourses of Epictetus (edizione 1995)

di Epictetus.,, Christopher Gill, Robin Hard

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Epictetus was born a slave but at an early age developed a passion for philosophy and with the permission of his master he studied under Musonius Rufus. He obtained his freedom sometime after the death of Nero in 68 AD and later began teaching in Rome until his banishment from the city around 93 AD, after which he travelled to Nicopolis in Greece and carried on teaching there for the remainder of his days. His teachings were written down and published by his pupil Arrian in 'The Discourses' and later summarised in 'The Enchiridion'. They have been influential since they were written and are referenced frequently by Marcus Aurelius in his Meditations. Epictetus puts a strong focus on philosophy being practiced as a way of life, and not just a theoretical consideration. He also emphasises that many events are largely beyond our control and so we should learn to accept events calmly and dispassionately and instead put our focus on our own actions. This recording includes the Discourses and accompanying fragments.… (altro)
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Titolo:The discourses of Epictetus
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I had read the Meditations, but I was unfamiliar with this. Sadly, we have nothing directly from a Stoic philosopher, just the comments and notes of others. Stoicism, at least as I hear about it from the Roman sources, sometimes seems like cowboy etiquette ("Don't scream out when they cut for the bullet"), and there is considerable advice here about such topics as whether it would be better to be castrated or killed when the emperor demands it. In fact, I don't think any real answer is given, it is just implied that that you might as well be killed with only an aside that you might opt for castration if it doesn't mean that much to you. Stoicism, sometimes seems like distorted Epicureanism, as if Epicurus had booted out a sad and "stoic" member of the commune and this is what he came up with. So Epicurus was concerned with whether desires were natural and necessary (e.g. your friends), or natural but unnecessary (e.g. your slaves) or unnatural and unnecessary (e.g. high political office), while Epictetus was concerned with whether a thing was within our power or not within our power. It is as if Epicureans were looking for the best way to live one's life with an assumption that they had the means to do as they pleased, while Stoics were looking for the best way to live one's life with the assumption that you would just have to make do. ( )
  markm2315 | Jul 1, 2023 |
don't desire or dislike anything not in your control, only your feelings are in your control--Western Buddhism
  ritaer | Aug 12, 2021 |
MANUAL DISERTACION POR ARRIANO

Debemos nuestro conocimiento del filósofo estoico griego Epicteto (Hierápolis de Frigia [actual Turquía] 55 d.C. - Nicópolis, 135) sobre todo a uno de sus discípulos, Flavio Arriano, que fue biógrafo de Alejandro Magno. Porque Epicteto no dejó doctrina escrita, sino que limitó sus enseñanzas a la transmisión oral y directa. Arriano anotó y publicó sus explicaciones, según él literalmente, aunque algunos estudiosos sostienen que intervino de forma notable en el escrito. Sin embargo, predomina la opinión de que, en lo sustancial y en el estilo, los Discursos (noventa y cinco breves conferencias o sermones) y el Manual (resumen de los Discursos consistente en una cincuentena de extractos) expresan con fidelidad las enseñanzas morales de Epicteto. Éste pasó parte de su vida siendo esclavo en Roma (fue propiedad de Epafrodito, secretario y liberto de Nerón, y tal vez esta circunstancia le movió a insistir tanto en la dimensión de libertad que posee todo ser humano, el de la actitud ante la vida: sus enseñanzas pertenecen casi por completo a la ética, y la exponen con un estilo vivo e informal, que abunda en anécdotas y conversaciones imaginarias. Se refieren a la vida serena y contemplativa, por encima de las turbaciones y las pasiones, basada en la virtud entendida como vivir de acuerdo con la naturaleza según la razón, con plena aceptación del destino propio. Se trata, en suma, de una filosofía muy práctica y antiespeculativa, destinada a a aprender a manejarse en la vida según los mencionados principios estoicos. Por eso hace mucho hincapié en la vida cotidiana, en las situaciones concretas, pues el fin de sus disertaciones era ayudar a sus discípulos a alcanzar una vida feliz mediante la correcta comprensión de sí mismos y del mundo en general.
Sabemos que fue desterrado de Roma e Italia, junto con los otros filósofos, por Domiciano en el año 92-93, y que se instaló en Nicópolis, en el Epiro, donde siguió pronunciando conferencias que atraían a muchos foráneos (entre ellos, Flavio Arriano), pues su fama era grande: según Orígenes, en vida gozó de tanta como Platón.

Epicteto afirma la necesidad de buscar un camino hacia la libertad. El primer paso es reconocer que:

“Unas cosas dependen de nosotros. De nosotros dependen el juicio, el impulso, el deseo, el rechazo y, en una palabra, cuanto es asunto nuestro. Y no dependen de nosotros el cuerpo, la hacienda, la reputación, los cargos y, en una palabra, cuanto no es asunto nuestro. Y lo que depende de nosotros es por naturaleza libre, no sometido a estorbos ni impedimentos; mientras que lo que no depende de nosotros es débil, esclavo, sometido a impedimentos, ajeno” ( Epicteto, Manual / Disertaciones por Arriano. Trad. de Paloma Ortiz García. Madrid, Editorial Gredos (Biblioteca Básica de Gredos, 97), 2001, capítulo I)
  FundacionRosacruz | Feb 24, 2018 |
If you like the tedium of a stoic, you'll enjoy this book. How sad. ( )
  JVioland | Jul 14, 2014 |
Written during the first century A.D., Arrianus wrote the words of Epictetus in the style in which they were delivered in speech. To provide a synoposis of the explanation given in this book (from the Modern Library), Stoicism was founded by Zeno in taking from Plato the value of self-sufficiency. If the universe is self-sufficient, dualism would not be possible and so monism must be. And that implies that everything is good and natural. Ironically, the efficient workings of the self-sufficient machine of the universe inspired belief in "god" (fate, whatever). The general belief that everyone should do what they are meant to do resulted in the Stoics being heard in public life. While the Epicureans sought to withdraw, the Stoic philosophy became an underlying part of later political and social philosophy. The writing itself struck me as similar in places to the timeless motivational messages of personal will. There were also strong corollaries to the Bible, particularly the phrase, "Seek, and you shall find" and parables of seeds and the vine. ( )
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Epictetus was born a slave but at an early age developed a passion for philosophy and with the permission of his master he studied under Musonius Rufus. He obtained his freedom sometime after the death of Nero in 68 AD and later began teaching in Rome until his banishment from the city around 93 AD, after which he travelled to Nicopolis in Greece and carried on teaching there for the remainder of his days. His teachings were written down and published by his pupil Arrian in 'The Discourses' and later summarised in 'The Enchiridion'. They have been influential since they were written and are referenced frequently by Marcus Aurelius in his Meditations. Epictetus puts a strong focus on philosophy being practiced as a way of life, and not just a theoretical consideration. He also emphasises that many events are largely beyond our control and so we should learn to accept events calmly and dispassionately and instead put our focus on our own actions. This recording includes the Discourses and accompanying fragments.

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