Pagina principaleGruppiConversazioniAltroStatistiche
Questo sito utilizza i cookies per fornire i nostri servizi, per migliorare le prestazioni, per analisi, e (per gli utenti che accedono senza fare login) per la pubblicità. Usando LibraryThing confermi di aver letto e capito le nostre condizioni di servizio e la politica sulla privacy. Il tuo uso del sito e dei servizi è soggetto a tali politiche e condizioni.
Hide this

Risultati da Google Ricerca Libri

Fai clic su di un'immagine per andare a Google Ricerca Libri.

Sto caricando le informazioni...

La colpa del prete amaro

di José Maria Eça de Queirós

Altri autori: Vedi la sezione altri autori.

UtentiRecensioniPopolaritàMedia votiCitazioni
6011528,829 (4.07)72
This novel is set in Leiria, a provincial cathedral in which the hypocrisies of churchmen were not far to seek. Father Amaro, a young man like the author himself, with a priestly rather than a diplomatic vocation, falls into a relationship with a woman, and their tragic story unfolds.
Sto caricando le informazioni...

Iscriviti per consentire a LibraryThing di scoprire se ti piacerà questo libro.

Attualmente non vi sono conversazioni su questo libro.

» Vedi le 72 citazioni


Me parece muy interesante como presenta el mensaje al lector pero me parece que el principio se extiende demasiado. Hay un par de personajes que me da la sensacion que estan mas bien para hacer bulto y se hace un poco pesado avanzar.

El libro sin embargo avanza a buen ritmo en la segunda parte, dentro de su mundo se podria decir que es un ritmo vestiginoso y el final es casi de infarto. ( )
  trusmis | Nov 28, 2020 |
Adquirido em 1990
  Nagib | Oct 31, 2020 |
You know it's an amazing read when you get through a 350 p novel in a couple of days- this is absolutely up there with Balzac and Trollope (and Spanish author Leopoldo Alas) and is currently joint-first best read of 2019.
De Queiros sets the stage for his narrative so brilliantly. A small, gossipy, ultra-Catholic Portugese town in the 1870s, with a plethora of tragic, comic and villainous characters. And to the town of Leiria comes handsome young priest Father Amaro, pushed into holy orders by a wealthy benefactor. The Canon arranges him a comfortable billet with a local lady of apparent utter respectability (his secret mistress) and her lovely and devout daughter Amelia. The initially blushing and tormented youth finds himself ablaze with love (or lust), and Amelia too seems to be more inclined to the good Father than to her erstwhile suitor. Much jealousy, many plots and schemes...utterly fabulous! ( )
1 vota starbox | Sep 29, 2019 |
A comparação com La Faute de l'Abbé Mouret, de Zola, é inevitável. Mas Eça sempre foi zolaesco: moralmente emaranhado, pessimista, lúgubre e vazado em maus presságios. Eça também é um humanista. Evita a pregação moral ao explorar uma questão tão oportuna e relevante que nos séculos seguintes (XX e XXI) ainda se discutirá a perversão de padres., A transformação de Amaro de padre ingênuo em adúltero torturado e carreirista intransigente é fascinante. O Padre Amaro, em última análise, é um personagem que não deveria poder tirar carteira para dirigir qualquer ônibus escolar. Não se trata de uma acusação à Igreja Católica como um todo, mas de um exame instigante do que pode acontecer quando indivíduos decentes são seduzidos pelo poder ou mera circunstância de sua posição social. ( )
  jgcorrea | Jan 22, 2019 |
Re-read Project. Read originally in Portuguese in the 80s in my Eça de Queiroz phase.

“Her old religious devotion was reborn, full of sentimental fervour; she felt an almost physical love for the Church; she would have liked to embrace and to plant lingering kisses on the altar, the organ, the missal, the saints, on heaven itself, because she made no real distinction between them and Amaro; they seemed to her mere appendages of his being.”

In “The Crime of Father Amaro” by Eça de Queiroz, translated by Margaret Jull Costa.

I remember my feelings when I first read it. My take is quite different.

For starters, let me just state that I was raised a catholic and I'm still a practicing one.

Since the 80s I learnt a few more things along the way, namely that the first pope (Peter) was married and so were many subsequent ones. In the Greek Church, parish priests are required to marry, primarily to head off problems like the ones depicted in this classic of Portuguese literature. In 2 Corinthians, Paul says it is better to marry than to burn with sexual desire and risk "fornication". This biblical injunction was one reason the protestants dropped the requirement like a stone. The original reason for priestly celibacy is that priests were handing down their offices to sons, taking them out of church hands. Concubinage was winked at partially because any children would be illegitimate and thus could not inherit. The pope who declared celibacy the rule was warned about the problems it would generate, which we see to this day. I no longer believe "The Crime of Father Amaro" was an attack on Catholicism, neither to Catholics in general, but as an attack to corrupt people and corrupt institutions. The priests are human beings; therefore, some are better persons than others. But the truth is that most priests have to live in a world of hypocrisy and power. And as everybody knows: "Power corrupts". I am not saying that the whole of the Catholic-Hierarchy is full of hypocrite people, but that several of them succumbs when faced to the power and wealth. What I am saying is nothing new or a revelation by any means, it happens since ancient times, not only among Catholics or Christians in general but among ANY members of ANY institution where power and ambition are present. That means: Everywhere... from politicians to priests thru entrepreneurs and military. Corruption is everywhere as the opposite: well-intended people.

I've known despicable people who are Catholics, Protestants, Jews or Buddhists or atheists and good people from any religion (or without religion) as well.

The usual take on this movie is "corrupt (catholic) church exploiting its followers, in a world where God is absent". This makes sense if you are an atheist or agnostic, but not otherwise. If God is ever-present in our daily lives, he must be given a role in this book. The Bible has many stories where the Lord uses temptation to judge and strengthen the character of his servants. Mortals use their free will when faced with temptation. Those who fall are sinners and God will punish them, but also forgive those who repent.

How does this fit with the story of "The Crime of Father Amaro"? Father Amaro is a young promising servant of God, however he is also weak: he is lustful, and his rapid career has made him inclined to pride/vanity. The Lord chooses to try the character of his servant, by tempting his lust with (the also lustful servant) Amelia. Amaro falls, partially because of his weak commitment to abstinence ("I was forced to"). Amelia herself falls, but also commits the sin of trying to seduce Amaro away from his vocation. Amaro resist this, thus proving worthy of God's trust. Amaro is a sinner, but he doesn't repent. Thus God tries him (and Amelia) a second time, this time on the 5th Commandment. Although Padre Amaro is the instigator and accomplice, he tells Amelia in front of the church altar, that she must use her free will. She does and violates the 5th commandment. For this God punishes her with death. Amelia's death is also the instrument God uses to punish Padre Amaro, who finally admits his sin and repents. The Lord tempted, punished and forgave Padre Amaro.

In the end, from a spiritual perspective the book is a strictly moral story about the faith in God. Amaro keeps his and proves worthy and Natário loses his and are condemned to eternal damnation. From this point of view, only an atheist could see this film as an attack on the Holy Roman Church. Father Natário is truer to his faith than either Brito or Amaro. Father Natário can turn away from the Church without turning away from God. Not once does he imply that it is God who wants him to leave his people, that it is God forcing him to make a choice between reassignment and excommunication. He knows full well he is up against the Bishop, not God. He chooses his honest mission rather than give in to the Bishop.

The Catholic Church is hardly "God's sole appointed representation on earth" ... even in a small country village where someone like Dionisia can raise a crowd to attack the "heretic," there are still many who can see the small-mindedness of that "one true religion" idea. Certainly someone as intelligent as Father Natário would fall into that group. If anyone deserves to go to hell, it’s probably Padre Amaro. Amelia's sin was one of desperation, while Amaro's is one of selfishness. Who is the one who commits the bigger sin, the desperate mother who kills her child, or the person who urges her to do so? We all have moments of desperation. Thankfully, most of them do not lead to the death of another person, but Amaro was hardhearted in his treatment of Amelia and his child. His punishment is that he has to live with the blood of Amelia and their child on his hands.

Of course, the politically correct response to my comment is "well, if Amelia had access to legal abortion, she would not be dead". Yes, and if all cliffs and bridges had protective railings, then any desperate mothers who wanted to push their children off them would not be at risk at falling off themselves. The clue is not to facilitate abortion, but to counsel those desperate enough to consider it.
On a side note. I'm so sick of people that would love to tell a a writer how to make his/her books. SO WHAT if they don't tell all the sides of a story? Would the Wizard of Oz be a better book if we spent book time exploring all the positive contributions flying monkeys or munchkins make to society? No! SO WHAT if it blasts something about your particular group? People of all religious groups do and say horrible things. There should be more movies that dare to say and do the things that people do in real life. Priests rape, deacons kill abortionist, abortionist kills fetuses, Jews kill Arabs, Arabs kill Jews, Americans kill anything they can get away with, particularly each other, and kid-show hosts have child porn. Life just sucks sometimes so would you mind:

1) SITTING DOWN
2) SHUTTING UP

and let the rest of us enjoy learning something.

Even if I hated this book (which I didn’t; on the contrary), I’d have to stand up for it because if I didn't, then we’d have lost a little more freedom and even that is waning by the day. ( )
1 vota antao | Mar 12, 2017 |
nessuna recensione | aggiungi una recensione

» Aggiungi altri autori (17 potenziali)

Nome dell'autoreRuoloTipo di autoreOpera?Stato
Queirós, José Maria Eça deautore primariotutte le edizioniconfermato
Masereel, FransImmagine di copertinaautore secondarioalcune edizioniconfermato
Pohl, GerhartPrefazioneautore secondarioalcune edizioniconfermato
Schlichtkrull, Thomas W.Traduttoreautore secondarioalcune edizioniconfermato
Devi effettuare l'accesso per contribuire alle Informazioni generali.
Per maggiori spiegazioni, vedi la pagina di aiuto delle informazioni generali.
Titolo canonico
Dati dalle informazioni generali inglesi. Modifica per tradurlo nella tua lingua.
Titolo originale
Titoli alternativi
Data della prima edizione
Personaggi
Dati dalle informazioni generali inglesi. Modifica per tradurlo nella tua lingua.
Luoghi significativi
Dati dalle informazioni generali inglesi. Modifica per tradurlo nella tua lingua.
Eventi significativi
Film correlati
Dati dalle informazioni generali inglesi. Modifica per tradurlo nella tua lingua.
Premi e riconoscimenti
Dati dalle informazioni generali inglesi. Modifica per tradurlo nella tua lingua.
Epigrafe
Dedica
Incipit
Dati dalle informazioni generali inglesi. Modifica per tradurlo nella tua lingua.
Foi no domingo de Páscoa que se soube em Leiria qu o pároco da Sé, José Miguéis, tinha morrido de madrugada com uma apoplexia.
It was Easter Sunday when it became known in Leiria that Jose Migueis, the Cathedral paroco, had died of apoplexy in the early hours of the morning.
Citazioni
Ultime parole
Dati dalle informazioni generali inglesi. Modifica per tradurlo nella tua lingua.
(Click per vedere. Attenzione: può contenere anticipazioni.)
(Click per vedere. Attenzione: può contenere anticipazioni.)
Nota di disambiguazione
Redattore editoriale
Elogi
Lingua originale
Dati dalle informazioni generali inglesi. Modifica per tradurlo nella tua lingua.
DDC/MDS Canonico

Risorse esterne che parlano di questo libro

Wikipedia in inglese (1)

This novel is set in Leiria, a provincial cathedral in which the hypocrisies of churchmen were not far to seek. Father Amaro, a young man like the author himself, with a priestly rather than a diplomatic vocation, falls into a relationship with a woman, and their tragic story unfolds.

Non sono state trovate descrizioni di biblioteche

Descrizione del libro
Riassunto haiku

Link rapidi

Copertine popolari

Voto

Media: (4.07)
0.5
1
1.5 1
2 2
2.5 1
3 16
3.5 4
4 45
4.5 7
5 30

Sei tu?

Diventa un autore di LibraryThing.

 

A proposito di | Contatto | LibraryThing.com | Privacy/Condizioni d'uso | Guida/FAQ | Blog | Negozio | APIs | TinyCat | Biblioteche di personaggi celebri | Recensori in anteprima | Informazioni generali | 155,870,987 libri! | Barra superiore: Sempre visibile