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Seven Days in New Crete (1949)

di Robert Graves

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Edward Venn-Thomas lives in the twentieth century but has been mysteriously transported to the future, and the apparently idyllic society of New Create, where there is no hunger, no war and no dissatisfaction. However Venn-Thomas is starting to find life among the New Cretans rather dull. He comes to realize that their perfect existence, inspired by the poets and magicians of their strange occultic religion, lacks one fundamental thing - evil. So Venn-Thomas sees it as nothing less than his duty to introduce them to the darker side of life. First published in 1949 and also known as Watch the North Wind Rise, Graves's novel is a thrilling blend of utopian fantasy, science fiction and mythology.… (altro)
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Biblioteche di personaggi celebriRobert Ranke Graves
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Interesting, thoughtful, and fun. ( )
  grahzny | Jul 17, 2023 |
I believe that this was the book that convinced Robert Graves that poetry and well researched historical fiction were the genres in which he should concentrate in any following efforts. There is too much explaining and not enough showing in this tale of a pet transported into a future society of peaceful agriculturalists and Goddess worshippers. Don't bother with it. ( )
  DinadansFriend | Feb 27, 2021 |
The plot, insofar as it matters: A 20th century poet is whisked into the future (which values poets) and learns about their society.

Apparently a rule of thumb is that one ought to read 50 pages before abandoning a book (and the equivalent of your age, I'm told, if you're older than 50). And I certainly read 50 pages before returning this to the library, even after being a bit put out at the rather casual condemnation of homosexuals (this society puts them to death) and the comparison with two-headed calves. I'm a big boy, I can handle these things, especially from a 1949 book where perhaps the protagonist doesn't agree with this this utopia's new norms and will launch a "save the homosexuals" campaign on page 110 (he probably won't, but I don't know, I gave up around page 80).

For almost all of the first third of this book it's a description (in dialogue) of the dullest exposition imaginable, about the workings of this future society. It's the sort of thing that even the most workmanlike of today's writers would realise should be kept in the background while more interesting matters like plot and characterization take the foreground--these days one does the world-building, but we make it subtext, not text. It really was painful (reminded me of an absurd class assignment I did in grade 9 where I imagined what might happen if the Vikings had persisted in North America, and then wrote up an elaborate alternate history of events--nobody needs to read that!)

The writing was not delectable enough to enjoy the book purely in terms of the felicity of word choice and phraseology, the society not interesting enough to want to read more about it (and yet more, much more, is given), and the characters, such as they are, not compelling (or even realistic) enough to warrant any empathy or identification. One might as well call them man, young woman, and woman--that's as exciting as they get.

This could be one of those works which was unusual or groundbreaking in some respects during its original publication (though I can't imagine what those would be), but it's definitely not a classic (like, say, The Hobbit, which has lost none of its charm, or Titus Groan, roughly contemporaneous, which has all its original power and then some--reading this book was a tiresome slog, and I dropped it and picked up a well-regarded Georgette Heyer instead, feeling fully satisfied with myself.

Picked it up originally because I'd mistakenly thought it was on the Pringle list of great Modern Fantasy and just couldn't imagine why he thought this was so good, only to realise I'd got my lists mixed up and it was really from my list of unusual GoodShowSir bad book covers. Sigh. ( )
1 vota ashleytylerjohn | Sep 19, 2018 |
A poet from our time (1949) is transported years into the future, which is now a peaceful, Goddess worshipping world culture where money, technology, and wars have been eliminated and people live in rural villages and in defined social groups. I love utopia/dystopia fiction, and part of what I love is being dropped into this alternate world and figuring out how things work. This one doesn’t have that because from when he arrives, everything is explained to him (and us.) I don’t believe for a second that this culture would work; I don’t have that much faith in humanity, but it’s interesting to speculate. What made it a page turner was the interactions between the protagonist and other characters including a troublesome woman from his past who has somehow appeared in the future with him. But that sort of fizzled out and it was ultimately kind of philosophical musing about Goddess culture and good and evil, which was okay (especially because of my acquaintance with the Goddess) but eh. ( )
1 vota piemouth | Apr 13, 2014 |
This is a utopian novel drawing from both Graves's life (characters derive. as Martin Seymour-Smith indicates in his useful introduction , both from his wife Beryl and from his long-time lover Laura Riding) and from the mythos he created for his monograph on "poetic myth" *The White Goddess*. The result is a flawed utopia into which his narrator, Edward Venn-Thomas,lands, drawn from the mid-twentieth century by magic. Graves gives us a thick description of the society, its values, its complexity, in a highly readable novel that stands up pretty well six decades after first publication.
  Fledgist | Jul 27, 2010 |
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Nome dell'autoreRuoloTipo di autoreOpera?Stato
Graves, Robertautore primariotutte le edizioniconfermato
Hooks, MitchellImmagine di copertinaautore secondarioalcune edizioniconfermato
Kirby, RonImmagine di copertinaautore secondarioalcune edizioniconfermato
Marginter, PeterTraduttoreautore secondarioalcune edizioniconfermato
Seymour-Smith, MartinIntroduzioneautore secondarioalcune edizioniconfermato
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Edward Venn-Thomas lives in the twentieth century but has been mysteriously transported to the future, and the apparently idyllic society of New Create, where there is no hunger, no war and no dissatisfaction. However Venn-Thomas is starting to find life among the New Cretans rather dull. He comes to realize that their perfect existence, inspired by the poets and magicians of their strange occultic religion, lacks one fundamental thing - evil. So Venn-Thomas sees it as nothing less than his duty to introduce them to the darker side of life. First published in 1949 and also known as Watch the North Wind Rise, Graves's novel is a thrilling blend of utopian fantasy, science fiction and mythology.

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