Pagina principaleGruppiConversazioniAltroStatistiche
Cerca nel Sito
Questo sito utilizza i cookies per fornire i nostri servizi, per migliorare le prestazioni, per analisi, e (per gli utenti che accedono senza fare login) per la pubblicità. Usando LibraryThing confermi di aver letto e capito le nostre condizioni di servizio e la politica sulla privacy. Il tuo uso del sito e dei servizi è soggetto a tali politiche e condizioni.

Risultati da Google Ricerca Libri

Fai clic su di un'immagine per andare a Google Ricerca Libri.

Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma di Claire Dederer
Sto caricando le informazioni...

Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma (edizione 2023)

di Claire Dederer (Autore)

UtentiRecensioniPopolaritàMedia votiCitazioni
3141483,246 (3.97)21
"In this unflinching, deeply personal book that expands on her instantly viral Paris Review essay, "What Do We Do With the Art of Monstrous Men?" Claire Dederer asks: Can we love the work of Hemingway, Polanski, Naipaul, Miles Davis, or Picasso? Should we love it? Does genius deserve special dispensation? Is male monstrosity the same as female monstrosity? Does art have a mandate to depict the darker elements of the psyche? And what happens if the artist stares too long into the abyss? She explores the audience's relationship with artists from Woody Allen to Michael Jackson, asking: How do we balance our undeniable sense of moral outrage with our equally undeniable love of the work? In a more troubling vein, she wonders if an artist needs to be a monster in order to create something great. And if an artist is also a mother, does one identity inexorably, and fatally, interrupt the other? Highly topical, morally wise, honest to the core, Monsters is certain to incite a conversation about whether and how we can separate artists from their art"--… (altro)
Utente:AntonioGallo
Titolo:Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma
Autori:Claire Dederer (Autore)
Info:Sceptre (2023), Edizione: 1, 288 pagine
Collezioni:Thinking, Culture, People, Brain, Psycho, Bibliomania
Voto:****
Etichette:Nessuno

Informazioni sull'opera

Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma di Claire Dederer

Sto caricando le informazioni...

Iscriviti per consentire a LibraryThing di scoprire se ti piacerà questo libro.

Attualmente non vi sono conversazioni su questo libro.

» Vedi le 21 citazioni

Inglese (12)  Olandese (1)  Italiano (1)  Tutte le lingue (14)
In "Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma," Dederer delves into the question of whether it is possible to separate an artist from their art, particularly when the artist's personal conduct is at odds with their work. She describes her own experience as a fan of Woody Allen, whose films she had enjoyed for years, but whose personal life and allegations of sexual misconduct have caused her to reassess her appreciation of his work.

Dederer also discusses the broader cultural context in which these debates are taking place, noting the growing awareness of sexual harassment and assault in the entertainment industry and the political sphere. She acknowledges the emotional toll that revelations of misconduct can take on fans, particularly women who may see their own experiences reflected in the stories of abuse and exploitation that have come to light.

At the same time, Dederer acknowledges the importance of art and the role that it plays in our lives. She describes the power of art to connect us to our emotions and to give us a sense of meaning and purpose. She also recognizes the value of creative expression and the contributions that artists have made to our culture and society.

Ultimately, Dederer's essay raises important questions about the relationship between art and morality, and the responsibility of artists for their actions. It also highlights the difficult choices that fans must make when confronted with revelations of misconduct by their favorite artists.

----

In "Monsters: A Fan's Dilemma", Dederer approfondisce la questione se sia possibile separare un artista dalla sua arte, in particolare quando la condotta personale dell'artista è in contrasto con il suo lavoro. Descrive la propria esperienza come fan di Woody Allen, i cui film le sono piaciuti per anni, ma la cui vita personale e le accuse di cattiva condotta sessuale l'hanno indotta a rivalutare il suo apprezzamento per il suo lavoro.

Dederer discute anche del contesto culturale più ampio in cui si svolgono questi dibattiti, rilevando la crescente consapevolezza delle molestie sessuali e delle aggressioni nell'industria dell'intrattenimento e nella sfera politica. Riconosce il costo emotivo che le rivelazioni di cattiva condotta possono assumere sui fan, in particolare sulle donne che potrebbero vedere le proprie esperienze riflesse nelle storie di abusi e sfruttamento che sono venute alla luce.

Allo stesso tempo, Dederer riconosce l'importanza dell'arte e il ruolo che svolge nelle nostre vite. Descrive il potere dell'arte di connetterci alle nostre emozioni e di darci un senso di significato e scopo. Riconosce anche il valore dell'espressione creativa e il contributo che gli artisti hanno dato alla nostra cultura e società.

In definitiva, il saggio di Dederer solleva questioni importanti sul rapporto tra arte e moralità e sulla responsabilità degli artisti per le loro azioni. Evidenzia anche le scelte difficili che i fan devono fare quando si confrontano con le rivelazioni di cattiva condotta dei loro artisti preferiti.

----

https://angallo.medium.com/vecchi-e-nuovi-mostri-il-dilemma-dei-cattivi-maestri-... ( )
  AntonioGallo | May 24, 2023 |
Famed composer Richard Wagner’s anti-Semitism was an obsession:

"'[For Richard Wagner, anti-Semitism] was more than a bizarre peccadillo, beyond a prejudice: it was an obsession, a monomania, a full-blown neurosis. No conversation with Wagner ever occurred without a detour on the subject of Judaism. When, towards the end of Wagner's life, the painter Renoir had a sitting with him, Wagner interrupted his own pleasant flow of small talk with a sudden unprovoked denunciation of Jews which rapidly became rancid,' [said Simon Callow].

"Wagner also wrote at length about his obsession -- that essay Fry would have liked to forestall, 'Judaism in Music,' was pub­lished anonymously in 1850, the same year Lohengrin premiered. It describes the nature of 'the Jew musician' -- we've barely got­ten started and we're already in choppy waters. The use of the word 'Jew' as an adjective is generally speaking not a good sign. My friend Alex Blumberg once observed to me as we walked through the Chicago neighborhood historically known as Jew Town: 'The word Jew is fine as a noun, starts to be a problem as an adjective, and is totally not okay as a verb.'
"Writes Wagner, 'The Jew -- who, as everyone knows, has a God all to himself -- in ordinary life strikes us primarily by his outward appearance, which, no matter to what European nation­ality we belong, has something disagreeably foreign to that nationality: instinctively we wish to have nothing in common with a man who looks like that.'

"Wagner is ramping up, working himself into a frenzy, and the modern reader in turn feels a mounting abhorrence, as well as a kind of lofty disdain for what we perceive as his clueless­ness. But we tell ourselves he didn't know better.

"And yet Wagner bases his entire rant on the fact that he did know better. He positions his screed as a dose of Limbaugh­esque real talk in the face of liberal platitudes calling for an end to anti-Semitism: 'We have to explain to ourselves the involun­tary repellence possessed for us by the nature and personality of the Jews, so as to vindicate that instinctive dislike which we plainly recognise as stronger and more overpowering than our conscious zeal to rid ourselves thereof.'

"He's making the point that he and his brethren don't want to revile Jews. This is some real 'I'm the victim here' shit. Wag­ner insists that he possesses -- we all possess -- a 'conscious zeal to rid ourselves' of the 'instinctive dislike,' but an honest man must wrestle with these feelings of 'involuntary repellence,' Hey, man, he's just describing how everyone really feels. Inci­dentally, this is an example of how insidious the word 'we' can be -- by employing it, Wagner normalizes and universalizes his own demented and hateful perspective, and suggests that all those fighting against anti-Semitism are simply deluded or eva­sive when it comes to their own natures.

"From Wagner's perspective, to say one is not anti-Semitic is to lie: 'Even to-day we only purposely belie ourselves, in this regard, when we think it necessary to hold immoral and taboo all open proclamation of our natural repugnance against the Jewish nature. Only in quite the latest times do we seem to have reached an insight, that it is more rational (vernünftiger) to rid ourselves of that strenuous self-deception' -- he means here the self-deception that we actually might not be repelled by Jews­ -- 'so as quite soberly instead to view the object of our violent sympathy and bring ourselves to understand a repugnance still abiding with us in spite of all our Liberal bedazzlements.'"
aggiunto da AntonioGallo | modificaDelancyplace
 
Devi effettuare l'accesso per contribuire alle Informazioni generali.
Per maggiori spiegazioni, vedi la pagina di aiuto delle informazioni generali.
Titolo canonico
Titolo originale
Titoli alternativi
Data della prima edizione
Personaggi
Luoghi significativi
Eventi significativi
Film correlati
Epigrafe
Dati dalle informazioni generali inglesi. Modifica per tradurlo nella tua lingua.
Who has not asked himself at some time or other: am I a monster or is this what it means to be a person?
—Clarice Lispector
It is always tempting, of course, to impose one's view rather than to undergo the submission required by art—a submission, akin to that of generosity or love. . .
—Shirley Hazard
Dedica
Dati dalle informazioni generali inglesi. Modifica per tradurlo nella tua lingua.
For Lou Barcott and Wil Barcott, my best teachers
Incipit
Dati dalle informazioni generali inglesi. Modifica per tradurlo nella tua lingua.
It all began for me in the spring of 2014, when I found myself locked in a lonely—okay, imaginary—battle with an appalling genius. I was researching Roman Polanski for a book I was writing and found myself awed by his monstrousness. It was monumental, like the Grand Canyon, huge and void-like and slightly incomprehensible. -Prologue, The Child Rapist
I started keeping a list.

Roman Polanski, Woody Allen, Bill Cosby, William Burroughs, Richard Wagner, Sid Vicious, V.S. Naipaul, John Galliano, Norman Mailer, Ezra Pound, Caravaggio, Floyd Mayweather, though if we start listing athletes we'll never stop. And what about the women? The list becomes much more tentative: Anne Sexton? Joan Crawford? Sylvia Plath? Does self-harm count? Okay, well it's back to the men, I guess: Pablo Picasso, Lead Belly, Miles Davis, Phil Spector. Add your own; add a new one every week, every day. Charlie Rose. Carl Andre. Johnny Depp. -Chapter 1, Roll Call
Citazioni
Ultime parole
Dati dalle informazioni generali inglesi. Modifica per tradurlo nella tua lingua.
Nota di disambiguazione
Redattore editoriale
Elogi
Dati dalle informazioni generali inglesi. Modifica per tradurlo nella tua lingua.
Lingua originale
DDC/MDS Canonico
LCC canonico

Risorse esterne che parlano di questo libro

Wikipedia in inglese

Nessuno

"In this unflinching, deeply personal book that expands on her instantly viral Paris Review essay, "What Do We Do With the Art of Monstrous Men?" Claire Dederer asks: Can we love the work of Hemingway, Polanski, Naipaul, Miles Davis, or Picasso? Should we love it? Does genius deserve special dispensation? Is male monstrosity the same as female monstrosity? Does art have a mandate to depict the darker elements of the psyche? And what happens if the artist stares too long into the abyss? She explores the audience's relationship with artists from Woody Allen to Michael Jackson, asking: How do we balance our undeniable sense of moral outrage with our equally undeniable love of the work? In a more troubling vein, she wonders if an artist needs to be a monster in order to create something great. And if an artist is also a mother, does one identity inexorably, and fatally, interrupt the other? Highly topical, morally wise, honest to the core, Monsters is certain to incite a conversation about whether and how we can separate artists from their art"--

Non sono state trovate descrizioni di biblioteche

Descrizione del libro
NATIONAL BESTSELLER • A NEW YORK TIMES MOST ANTICIPATED BOOK • A timely, passionate, provocative, blisteringly smart interrogation of how we make and experience art in the age of cancel culture, and of the link between genius and monstrosity. Can we love the work of controversial classic and contemporary artists but dislike the artist?

"A lively, personal exploration of how one might think about the art of those who do bad things" —Vanity Fair

“Monsters leaves us with Dederer's passionate commitment to the artists whose work most matters to her, and a framework to address these questions about the artists who matter most to us." —The Washington Post

"[Dederer] breaks new ground, making a complex cultural conversation feel brand new." —Ada Calhoun, author of Also a Poet


From the author of the New York Times best seller Poser and the acclaimed memoir Love and Trouble, Monsters is “part memoir, part treatise, and all treat” (The New York Times). This unflinching, deeply personal book expands on Claire Dederer's instantly viral Paris Review essay, "What Do We Do with the Art of Monstrous Men?"

Can we love the work of artists such as Hemingway, Sylvia Plath, Miles Davis, Polanski, or Picasso? Should we? Dederer explores the audience's relationship with artists from Michael Jackson to Virginia Woolf, asking: How do we balance our undeniable sense of moral outrage with our equally undeniable love of the work? Is male monstrosity the same as female monstrosity? And if an artist is also a mother, does one identity inexorably, and fatally, interrupt the other? In a more troubling vein, she wonders if an artist needs to be a monster in order to create something great. Does genius deserve special dispensation? Does art have a mandate to depict the darker elements of the psyche? And what happens if the artist stares too long into the abyss?

Highly topical, morally wise, honest to the core, Monsters is certain to incite a conversation about whether and how we can separate artists from their art.
Riassunto haiku

Discussioni correnti

Nessuno

Copertine popolari

Link rapidi

Voto

Media: (3.97)
0.5
1 1
1.5
2 2
2.5 2
3 11
3.5 8
4 25
4.5 7
5 19

Sei tu?

Diventa un autore di LibraryThing.

 

A proposito di | Contatto | LibraryThing.com | Privacy/Condizioni d'uso | Guida/FAQ | Blog | Negozio | APIs | TinyCat | Biblioteche di personaggi celebri | Recensori in anteprima | Informazioni generali | 204,664,115 libri! | Barra superiore: Sempre visibile