Okay, ssssshhhh!

Fleela put a bug in my ear and here's something for that.

Only members of this group can see the new, skeleton DDC page. Keep it that way.

Examples:
http://www.librarything.com/ddc/641.5
http://www.librarything.com/ddc/248.4
http://www.librarything.com/ddc/550
http://www.librarything.com/ddc/158.1
http://www.librarything.com/ddc/100
http://www.librarything.com/ddc/658.4
http://www.librarything.com/ddc/005.133

I'm going to improve it a bit soon, and open it up to Recommended Site Improvements. As you can quickly tell, it has no way of moving between DDCs. It has no words for the DDC. Etc. Etc.

For now, I'm particularly interested in how I can help you.

Yay, thank you! Is it organized by popularity?

One potential issue: is 641.5 not included in 641?

It would also be nice if the list showed more information, like number of members and average rating.

OMG! It's a PONY! Wahoooooo!

I'd love it even more if there was a number of books and/or listed by popularity.

You're not going to get sued, right?

Number of members and popularity would be good.

Tim asked: Do you want it to show everything in a division, or that and everything below it? Is 110 just 110 or also 110.234, etc.?

What do you guys think?

For me, when I went to http://www.librarything.com/ddc/420 I expected to see 12 books with checkmarks, but I saw only one. I see now that lumping all the subdivisions together will result in some very long lists. I haven't been tagging anything other than the top level, DD420 covers everything. But could these DDC pages be more dynamic than a tag page? Expandable subdivision lists? Paginated lists? Just throwing out ideas.

I definitely think 110 should also be 110.234, etc. I don't want to check 1000+ separate lists to find a book that I can count under 110.

Of course, there could always be an option....

I don't want to check 1000+ separate lists to find a book that I can count under 110.

Agreed.

I know you probably can't use the "official" wording for the different classes and divisions and whatnot (I don't know the library jargon), but what if members could describe things in a wiki style text area? Like the series description box on the series CK pages.

>6 _Zoe_:-7
I'm so with you on this. 973, 973.3, and 973.3092 are all the same thing, only filtered using combs with finer and finer teeth.

Further question: once the kinks are worked out, will we be getting this for the LC system? (There is, after all, a companion group to this one.) If we get a second pony, they might decide to breed. ;)

>8 AnnaClaire:

Okay, I'm going to give it a toggle--"X and below within" and "exact."

Yes, we'll be getting it for LC.

Yes, we'll be getting it for LC.

Who left the pony Viagra laying around?

Thank you!

Another thing that would be useful for this challenge is better Dewey information on the Work Details page. It used to show all the Dewey numbers that had been applied to the book (maybe even with a count?), but at some point that information was taken away and only one Dewey number is shown.

>11 _Zoe_:

I'm not sure we'll show all. There's just so damn much data. It gets overwhelming.

This old (slightly dead) project is a model for navigation, don't you think?

http://deweybrowser.oclc.org/ddcbrowser/wcat

T

I really like that Dewey browser.

The problem is, we can't show the schedules. We'll have to show them c. 1922, or maybe have members come up with descriptive labels for them out of the blue.

T

See my message #7. Crowd source it and it'll be done lickety-split.

>12 timspalding: Are we looking at the same Work Details page? There's almost nothing there at all.

Also, do you have any statistics about how many significantly different Dewey Decimal numbers books tend to have? I don't remember there being very many in the past. If you think it's overwhelming, truncate the part after the decimal.

I'm not particularly enamoured of the old navigation, but it's fine.

>16 _Zoe_:
You can check the OCLC's Classify site to get an idea of what different numbers are given to a book. In pie chart form even.

Here's Gone With the Wind and its 5 different Dewey numbers.

>17 DaynaRT: Thanks for that tip!

I think I'd still like to have the information available on LT, though.

old navigation

?

Thank you. This is nice idea, especially with the idea in 9 to allow rolling up subgroups.

I'm curious what determines what Dewey number a work gets since it's different in individual catalogs? Is it the most common one?

>19 timspalding: This old (slightly dead) project is a model for navigation, don't you think?

Tim, you are my hero.

I agree that 421 should show 421.5 and 421.143120413, but 420 should not show 421.