House Select Committee January 6 Insurrection 2

Ginni Thomas wanted Mike Pence to throw the election for Trump on Jan. 6.
https://washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/24/virginia-thomas-mark-meadows-text...
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- Mark Joseph Stern (Slate) @mjs_DC | 5:33 PM · Mar 24, 2022

Committee & DOJ Get Secret Videos Linking Proud Boys, Others to Jan. 6th Rally Organizers

New videos taken by a Goldcrest Films crew that followed Proud Boys leaders and Oath Keepers before the Capitol reveal cooperation between the two groups. An unnamed source says the J6 Committee has been "locked in" on them. The source also said the "First Amendment Praetorian, which is also known as '1AP,' is a 'major part' of the House investigation."

. . .the committee has obtained footage of Proud Boys leaders — including four minutes that may contain audio of a key meeting — and testimony linking the right-wing group First Amendment Praetorian to the organizers of the Jan. 6, 2021, rally on the White House Ellipse, where Trump urged the crowd to “fight like hell” as his defeat was being certified at the Capitol.
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First Amendment Praetorian has been identified. . .as a far-right “paramilitary group.”
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A LinkedIn page that appears to belong to Robert Patrick Lewis, the group’s chairman, describes First Amendment Praetorian as a group that is “dedicated to providing intelligence and security services to grassroots events in order to ensure Americans may express their 1st Amendment-protected rights to freedom of speech, religion, assembly and political affiliation.”

Lewis has already given testimony to the Select Committee and the DOJ has ongoing conspiracy cases against the two leaders of the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers, Enrique Tarrio and Stewart Rhodes.

(A) third source, who has seen the footage, said it largely features the Proud Boys and that Rhodes is only present during a meeting he had with Tarrio in a parking garage near the Capitol on Jan. 5. According to the third source, Oath Keepers general counsel Kellye SoRelle, Latinos for Trump President Bianca Gracia, and Vets for Trump co-founder Josh Macias also participated in the meeting. They further said the footage obtained by the committee includes approximately “four minutes” of B-roll that may contain audio of the parking-garage meeting.
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Prosecutors alleged Tarrio met with Rhodes and other unnamed individuals in an underground garage near the Phoenix Park Hotel, which is located roughly a half mile from the Capitol.

“During this encounter, a participant referenced the Capitol,” according to the indictment.

The Rolling Stone article is a lengthy exclusive with details about the paramilitary group, 1AP.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/inside-ted-cruz-e2-80-99s-last-ditch-bat...
Inside Ted Cruz’s last-ditch battle to keep Trump in power

.....An examination by The Washington Post of Cruz’s actions between Election Day and Jan. 6, 2021, shows just how deeply he was involved, working directly with Trump to concoct a plan that came closer than widely realized to keeping him in power. As Cruz went to extraordinary lengths to court Trump’s base and lay the groundwork for his own potential 2024 presidential bid, he also alienated close allies and longtime friends who accused him of abandoning his principles.

Now, Cruz’s efforts are of interest to the House committee investigating the Jan. 6 attack on the U.S. Capitol, in particular whether Cruz was in contact with Trump lawyer John Eastman, a conservative attorney who has been his friend for decades and who wrote key legal memos aimed at denying Biden’s victory.....

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This Christian? Trumper threw his wife, his father's memory and his daughters under the bus during the Trump era. Communicating and/or coordinating to stop the completion of an election process would have been par for the course for this very politically ambitious Twilight Zoner. He trashed his moral compass during the Trump era.

Trump likely committed felony obstruction, federal judge rules
Kyle Cheney, Nicholas Wu and Josh Gerstein | 03/28/2022

...U.S. District Court Judge David Carter made the determination in a ruling that orders 101 sensitive emails from Trump ally John Eastman be turned over to the House’s Jan. 6 select committee.

“Based on the evidence, the Court finds it more likely than not that President Trump corruptly attempted to obstruct the Joint Session of Congress on January 6, 2021,” Carter wrote.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/28/trump-judge-felony-obstruction-insurrec...
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The Media Has Yet to Grasp the Full Enormity of Ginni Thomas’s Text Messages
Reports have latched on to the lurid, QAnon-inflected scandal on the surface, but they’ve yet to plumb the depths of the corruption at its heart.
Alex Shephard/March 25, 2022

...This is, ultimately, a story about corruption. Clarence Thomas never disclosed that his wife was sending dozens of texts to Meadows. He certainly did not disclose that his wife harbored deranged QAnon-ish beliefs that she’d been sharing with the White House’s chief-of-staff. Perhaps he didn’t know specific details about what his wife has been discussing with Trump’s inner circle. But he almost assuredly understood her affinity for Trump—and her participation in promulgating baseless conspiracy theories about a stolen election: Earlier this month she admitted that she had attended Trump’s “Stop the Steal” rally. (She stated that she left early, before things took their violent turn.)

...Early defenses of Justice Thomas from the right have hinged on that veneer of deniability: That whatever else you might suspect, Clarence Thomas did nothing wrong...

But the story won’t disappear anytime soon. The January 6 Commission is still hard at work and more documents will undoubtedly come out in the coming weeks and months...

https://newrepublic.com/article/165859/ginni-thomas-media-corruption-scandal

Congressional resolution Navarro & Scavino contempt of Congress
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https://s3.documentcloud.org/documents/21561150/navarro-and-scavino-contempt-rep...

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Jan. 6 Select Committee Documents
Lawfare | accessed 3/28/2022

Table of Contents
Subpoenas
Depositions
Records and Information Requests
Letters to the Select Committee
Miscellaneous

https://www.lawfareblog.com/jan-6-select-committee-documents

"A Coup in Search of a Legal Theory"

The DOJ will have a hard time ignoring the opinion of the California District Court's ruling that Trump and his lawyer, John Eastman, "more likely than not," committed crimes in attempting to overturn the election and spur the violent overthrow of the legitimately elected government on Jan. 6, 2021. In the ruling the following points emerge:
1) INTENT: Carter says that Trump likely knew his efforts to overturn the election were not legitimate and that his claims of voter fraud were nonsense.

2) KNOWLEDGE OF COMMITTING A CRIME: Carter says lawyer Eastman almost certainly knew what he was proposing was illegal -- and he uses Eastman's own notes to prove it.

3) CONFIRMING LEGAL OPINION OF THE CRIME AFOREHAND: Carter finds Eastman was consistently advised that his plan was illegal, but he tried to enact it anyway.

4) COMMITMENT TO CRIMINAL ACTION: Carter concludes that Trump and Eastman simply wanted to conduct a coup -- the facts and the law be damned.

5) CONCLUSION:

"Dr. Eastman and President Trump launched a campaign to overturn a democratic election, an action unprecedented in American history.

"Their campaign was not confined to the ivory tower—it was a coup in search of a legal theory. The plan spurred violent attacks on the seat of our nation’s government, led to the deaths of several law enforcement officers, and deepened public distrust in our political process."

In sum, Judge Carter said that the Department of Justice must enforce accountability among the guilty parties. Trump, Eastman, Meadows and others attempted to obstruct justice; to overthrow the government; and commit fraud on the American people. Carter's 44 page opinion is no doubt circling under the nose of Merrick Garland as I type. He had better not ignore it since it lays out the case of "conspiracy to defraud the United States by disrupting the electoral count, in violation of 18 U.S.C. § 371.

Every American—and certainly the President of the United States—knows that in a democracy, leaders are elected, not installed. With a plan this “BOLD,”241 President Trump knowingly tried to subvert this fundamental principle.

As Rep. Adam Schiff said tonight during the J6 Committee vote to issue criminal contempt citations against Scavino and Navarro for ignoring its subpoenas, what good is our democracy if we do not enforce the powers of the branches of government?

Whether the crime is contempt of Congress by ignoring a legal summons, or it is contempt for the election by breaking the law protecting its sanctity, the job of the DOJ and the duty of the USAG is to prosecute these crimes.

Jared Kushner To Testify This Week

Jared Kushner, who served as a senior West Wing aide in Trump's administration, will reportedly appear virtually in front of the committee.

ABC News Chief Washington Correspondent Jonathan Karl said in his book "Betrayal" that Kushner avoided the White House because he thought he would get in a "fight" with Trump.

While Kushner stayed away from the inner circle that fateful day, Ivanka was at the White House, supposedly trying to get her father to stop the riot.

Interesting if Kushner's testimony prods Ivanka to voluntarily come forward with her evidence. Stay tuned.

>7 Limelite: There's a long way from "more likely than not" and "beyond a reasonable doubt" which the Justice department has to consider

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/just-in-nearly-8-hour-gap-in-white-house-phone-lo...
JUST IN: Nearly 8-Hour Gap in White House Phone Logs Raises Questions of Whether Trump Used ‘Burner Phones’
By Colby HallMar 29th, 2022, 7:39 am

The Washington Post and CBS News are reporting that there is gap of nearly 8 hours in White House phone logs and former President Donald Trump’s presidential diary on January 6th — raising questions of possible cover-up for any role the former president may have had in the attack on the Capitol and his possible use of disposable burner phones.

Bob Woodward and Robert Costa obtained 11 pages of logs from that day, the report of which notes a “lack of an official White House notation of any calls placed to or by Trump for 457 minutes on Jan. 6, 2021 – from 11:17 a.m. to 6:54 p.m.” The House Select Committee investigating the events of January 6th have no record of Trump’s phone conversations while the Capitol was under siege.

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This brings to mind the 18-minute gap on the Nixon tapes that Rose Mary Woods insisted she caused by mistake! Apparently, Trump used a similar modern-day method on 1-6. Trump and I were in our late twenties in the mid-seventies.

billbindc @BillBindc | 8:46 AM · Mar 29, 2022:
Not enough time is being spent on the utter absurdity of the idea that...precisely during the time of an attack on Congress...the President of the United States would go completely dark on comms and not be part of that attack:

Jan. 6 White House logs given to House show 7-hour gap in Trump calls
Bob Woodward and Robert Costa | 3/29/2022

The House select committee is now investigating whether it has the full record and whether Trump communicated that day through backchannels, phones of aides or personal disposable phones, according to people familiar with the probe...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/29/trump-white-house-logs/
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Stacey Geezil @swittgeezil · 35m
How about the fact that the Capitol was under attack, with the three people in line to the presidency inside and the president wasn’t brought to an undisclosed location?? No one finds that fact extraordinarily crazy?

New Focus on How a Trump Tweet Incited Far-Right Groups Ahead of Jan. 6
Alan Feuer, Michael S. Schmidt and Luke Broadwater | March 29, 2022

...Mr. Trump’s Twitter post in the early hours of Dec. 19, 2020, was the first time he publicly urged supporters to come to Washington on the day Congress was scheduled to certify the Electoral College results showing Joseph R. Biden Jr. as the winner of the presidential vote. His message — which concluded with, “Be there, will be wild!” — has long been seen as instrumental in drawing the crowds that attended a pro-Trump rally on the Ellipse on Jan. 6 and then marched to the Capitol.

But the Justice Department’s criminal investigation of the riot and the parallel inquiry by the House select committee have increasingly shown how Mr. Trump’s post was a powerful catalyst, particularly for far-right militants who believed he was facing his final chance to reverse defeat and whose role in fomenting the violence has come under intense scrutiny.

Extremist groups almost immediately celebrated Mr. Trump’s Twitter message, which they widely interpreted as an invitation to descend on the city in force. Responding to the president’s words, the groups sprang into action, court filings and interviews by the House committee show: Extremists began to set up encrypted communications channels, acquire protective gear and, in one case, prepare heavily armed “quick reaction forces” to be staged outside Washington...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/03/29/us/politics/trump-tweet-jan-6.html

The people to whom Trump talked on the day of the Capitol riot
Philip Bump | 3/29/2022

...Below, listed in alphabetical order, are those Trump tried to speak with or spoke with on Jan. 6. While many of the names might not be immediately familiar, we’ve included information about who they are and the likely reason that Trump reached out.

The calls we know about
Stephen K. Bannon, former adviser and podcast host. (Logged calls: 8:37 a.m. for about two minutes; 10:19 p.m. for about eight minutes)

William Bennett, former Cabinet official; conservative pundit. (10:45 a.m., two minutes)

Pat Cipollone, White House counsel. (7:01 p.m., seven minutes)

Rudy Giuliani, attorney. (8:42 a.m., four minutes; 9:41 a.m., seven minutes)

Bill Hagerty, senator from Tennessee. (White House called)

Sean Hannity, Fox News host. (11:08 p.m., nine minutes)

Josh Hawley, senator from Missouri. (White House called; called Trump without recorded call back)

Eric Herschmann, lawyer and White House adviser. (10:50 p.m., six minutes)

Jim Jordan, representative from Ohio’s 4th Congressional District. (9:24 a.m., 11 minutes)

Nick Luna, Trump’s personal assistant. (10:32 a.m., two minutes)

Mark Martin, former North Carolina Supreme Court justice. (7:30 p.m., 10 minutes)

Kevin McCarthy, House majority leader. (Reported; not in log)

Kayleigh McEnany, press secretary. (9:42 p.m., 12 minutes)

John McEntee, director of the White House Presidential Personnel Office. (11:23 p.m., 19 minutes)

Jason Miller, senior campaign adviser. (9:23 p.m., 19 minutes)

Stephen Miller, senior Trump adviser. (9:51 a.m., 28 minutes)

Cleta Mitchell, lawyer. (7:53 p.m., three minutes)

Kurt Olsen, lawyer. (8:34 a.m., three minutes; 7:17 p.m., 12 minutes)

Mike Pence, vice president. (White House called; reported conversation not logged)

David Perdue, senator from Georgia. (11:04 a.m., three minutes)

Dan Scavino, White House deputy chief of staff for communications. (7:08 p.m., eight minutes; 9:55 p.m., 16 minutes)

Tommy Tuberville, senator from Alabama. (Reported; not in log)

Unknown person. (11:17 a.m., unclear duration)
There’s one other call indicated in the material included in The Post’s report. At 11:17 a.m., shortly before Trump went to speak at the Ellipse, he had a call with an unidentified person for an unclear amount of time.
It would be the last call logged until after the Capitol had been overrun by pro-Trump rioters.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/03/29/who-trump-talked-day-capitol-...

Inside Pence-world's preparation for a Jan. 6 legal showdown
Betsy Woodruff Swan and Kyle Cheney | 03/30/2022 0

As forces loyal to Donald Trump began calling on Mike Pence to single-handedly stop Joe Biden from becoming president, the then-vice president dashed off a request in late 2020 to his top lawyer: Just how much power did he actually have over certifying electoral votes?

His counsel, Greg Jacob, replied the next day with a four-page legal memo that marked Pence’s first crash course in an arcane legal issue with historic consequences...

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/03/30/pence-jan-6-legal-showdown-00021864
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Kyle Cheney (Politico) @kyledcheney | 8:30 PM · Mar 30, 2022:
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1509327210620014602
NEWS: A month before Jan. 6, Mike Pence asked his top lawyer for an analysis of his role in counting electoral votes.
We obtained, and are publishing for 1st time, the text of the memo Greg JACOB produced the next day, Dec. 8, 2020.

The four-page memo was the beginning of Pence’s preparation for the Jan. 6 session of Congress, the underpinnings of what would become his resistance to the Trump-Eastman pressure campaign.

And it set the stage for the month-long sprint to Jan. 6.

The Jan. 6 committee has this memo, as well as the Jan. 5 memo Jacob wrote firmly and finally rejecting the call for Pence to overturn the election.

A source familiar with the drafting of the memo described it as an “overnight” attempt to arm Pence with as much info as possible.

More impt than Jacob’s first memo to Pence is his last one dated Jan. 5. The 1/6 committee has described it in court filings but it remains hidden. It shows that Eastman had hoped the courts would refuse to hear a challenge to Pence’s authority.

This possibility has been underappreciated. Eastman may not have believed his plans would pass legal muster, but he thought there was a chance the courts would willingly stay out of it, declaring it a “political” question for the other branches to resolve.

Sandi Bachom @sandibachom | 10:37 PM · Apr 3, 2022:
FYI, the National Guard was there the morning of January 6th. They should have been called up at 12:53 when the first barricade breach occurred, but they were denied FOURTEEN times by Chris Miller who was installed in the DoD AFTER Trump lost
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Country Over Party @lizzyvoice | 12:33 AM · Apr 4, 2022
(Acting Sec'y of Defense Chris) Miller hamstrung the head of the DC National Guard days before.
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Steve Bannon: No Catbird Seat When It's Placed on a Trap Door

We all know that Steve Bannon shot a figurative bird at the House Select Committee's subpoena, citing the shaky grounds that he's protected from testifying about his activities, conspiracy, and advocacy supporting the overthrow of the legitimately elected president from planning, to insurgency, to promoting the Big Lie. Even his lawyer may be in trouble for advising him to ignore the subpoena, which is illegal to do.

Consider, since both family members and advisors to Donald Trump have testified before the J6 Committee (remotely) for a combined 14 hours spent answering its questions, it will be awkward for Bannon's defense seeing that neither Jarrod nor Ivanka, claimed executive privilege protected them from complying with their subpoenas and giving their statements. What kind of special is Bannon compared to Trump's own daughter and son-in law?

Not very, I'm thinking. More likely, it's Bannon's criminal guilt that is behind his refusal to cooperate. Peter Navarro's too.

Oath Keepers and Proud Boys in the Crosshairs; Smoking Gun in Trump's Hand

Big week and good news for the J6 Committee. Bad news for DJT. Looks like direct evidence is establishing that Trump did oversee a criminal conspiracy to overthrow the election.

The House select committee investigating January 6 appears to believe the Capitol attack included a coordinated assault perpetrated by the Oath Keepers and the Proud Boys militia groups that sought to physically stop the certification of Joe Biden’s election victory.

(The theory) crystallized this week after obtaining evidence of the coordination in testimony and non-public video, according to two sources familiar with the matter.
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And the select committee has also now heard testimony from award-winning documentary film-maker Nick Quested on Wednesday about contacts between the militia group leaders, far-right political operatives and the Save America rally organizers, the sources said.
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. . .it could form part of the evidence to connect the militia groups that stormed the Capitol on 6 January to the organizers of the Save America rally that immediately preceded the attack – who in turn are. . .being linked to the Trump White House.

Are These the Beans Ivanka Spilled?

Was this the first action taken by the Trump Crime Family that set off the Insurrection and attempt to steal the 2020 election from the voters? Did Ivanka have documents to back up her verbal testimony? The timing sure fits.

Ivanka brother, Donald Trump Jr., texted WH former Chief-of-Staff Mark Meadows ideas for overturning 2020 election two days after the election while votes were still being counted. J6 Committee obtains emails laying out a plan for his father to stay in office despite losing the 2020 election.

The November 5 text message outlines a strategy that is nearly identical to what allies of the former President attempted to carry out in the months that followed. Trump Jr. makes specific reference to filing lawsuits and advocating recounts to prevent certain swing states from certifying their results, as well as having a handful of Republican state houses put forward slates of fake "Trump electors."

If all that failed, according to the Trump Jr. text, GOP lawmakers in Congress could simply vote to reinstall Trump as President on January 6.
"We have operational control Total leverage," the message reads. "Moral High Ground POTUS must start 2nd term now."
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It shows how those closest to the former President were already exchanging ideas for how to overturn the election months before the January 6 insurrection. . .

THe J6 Committee's informal color-named subcommittees are each taking on separate aspects of the investigation. They appear to be working very well as parts of larger whole, as the entire panel gets closer and closer to closing its case against Donald Trump.

Just days before J6, Jason Sullivan, a former aide to Roger Stone, held a conference call to help organize it where he said Trump will not allow Biden to take office and will declare a “limited form of martial law.” This call was reported on by the NYT. This is the actual call.

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- Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 @RonFilipkowski | 8:37 PM · Apr 16, 2022
Attorney, Marine, Triathlete, Historian. Fmr Fed Prosecutor & Repub; now Defense Att & Democrat. Track and Report on the Right-Wing. Seen on BBC, CNN, MSNBC.

Alex Jones Reaches Out to Justice Dept. About Jan. 6 Interview
Alan Feuer, Adam Goldman and Katie Benner | April 20, 2022

...Alex Jones, the host of the conspiracy-driven media outlet Infowars and a key player in the pro-Trump “Stop the Steal” movement, is in discussions with the Justice Department about an agreement to detail his role (margd: reportedly in Willard war rooms) in the rally near the White House last Jan. 6 that preceded the attack on the Capitol.

...Several months ago, the department quietly took another significant step, adding Thomas Windom, a career federal prosecutor from Maryland, to help in the expanded Jan. 6 investigation

...The Jan. 6 investigation is only one of the legal troubles Mr. Jones is facing. On Sunday, three companies affiliated with him, among them Infowars, filed for Chapter 11 protection following his prominent losses in defamation lawsuits in Texas and Connecticut connected to the 2012 Sandy Hook school shooting, which Mr. Jones had claimed was a hoax....

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/20/us/politics/alex-jones-jan-6-interview.html

CNN just broadcast new audio of McCarthy unambiguously blaming Trump for the January 6 attack during a House Republican Conference call on January 11, 2021. In the audio, McCarthy also claims Trump acknowledged to him that he bears responsibility for January 6.
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- Aaron Rupar @atrupar | 10:30 AM · Apr 22, 2022

hearsay

>22 Kuiperdolin: Yes. I heard it too.

"Six Most Chilling Words"

When the House Select Committee opens its hearings to the public in JuneJ6 Committee member, Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD), promised, "The hearings will tell a story that will really blow the roof off the House."

"No president has ever come close to doing what happened here in terms of trying to organize an inside coup to overthrow an election and bypass the constitutional order," he said. "And then also use a violent insurrection made up of domestic violent extremist groups, white nationalist and racist, fascist groups in order to support the coup."

Summing up the main point the investigation has determines so far in its investigation, Raskin said, "This was not a coup directed at the president. . ."It was a coup directed by the president against the vice president and against the Congress." He painted a picture of increasing resistance of witnesses to testify, the nearer the investigators approached those in Trump's "First Circle."

Then Raskin dropped the BOMBSHELL.

The plan was coordinated "most tightly by Trump and his inner circle.

Speaking about the threats to Pence on Jan. 6 and the chants by rioters to hang him, Raskin said the vice president's Secret Service agents — including one who was carrying the nuclear football — ran down to an undisclosed place in the Capitol. Those agents, who Raskin said he suspects were reporting to Trump’s Secret Service agents, were trying to whisk Pence away from the Capitol.

Then Ruskin played the trump (pun intended) card, saying. . .

Pence then "uttered what I think are the six most chilling words of this entire thing I've seen so far: 'I'm not getting in that car.'

"He knew exactly what this inside coup they had planned for was going to do."

Meadows Was Warned Jan. 6 Could Turn Violent, House Panel Says
Luke Broadwater and Alan Feuer | April 23, 2022

...Cassidy Hutchinson, a White House aide in Mr. Meadows’s office, ...“I know that there were concerns brought forward to Mr. Meadows...I know that people had brought information forward to him that had indicated that there could be violence on the 6th. But, again, I’m not sure if he — what he did with that information.”

Ms. Hutchinson...said Anthony M. Ornato, the former White House chief of operations, told Mr. Meadows that “we had intel reports saying that there could potentially be violence on the 6th. And Mr. Meadows said: All right. Let’s talk about it.”

“But despite this and other warnings, President Trump urged the attendees at the January 6th rally to march to the Capitol to ‘take back your country,’” Douglas N. Letter, the general counsel of the House, wrote in the filing...try(ing) to persuade a federal judge in Washington to throw out Mr. Meadows’s suit...trying to block the committee’s subpoenas, which he called “overly broad and unduly burdensome,” including one sent to Verizon for his phone and text data...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/04/23/us/politics/mark-meadows-jan-6-trump.html

Seth Abramson* @SethAbramson | 8:23 PM · Apr 22, 2022
I have repeatedly written in my published work that Donald Trump has a decades-long history of sharing lawyers with anyone he has committed crimes with to ensure that they do not hurt him. A key moment today was when a Greene lawyer suddenly stood up and said he represents Trump.

This lawyer was so scared of the possibility Greene would reveal things Trump had said in the days leading up to an insurrection he incited that he tried to claim executive privilege on Trump’s behalf against Greene—who has no such privilege as a member of the legislative branch.

* Seth Abramson @SethAbramson
NYT bestselling author. Attorney. Journalist. Trump biographer. Words CNN BBC CBS CBC @HBO @WashingtonPost, etc. More at http://sethabramson.substack.com.

Kyle Cheney (Politico) @kyledcheney | 1:35 AM · May 2, 2022:

NEWS: A federal judge has resoundingly rejected the RNC’s lawsuit against the Jan. 6 select committee, which is seeking data about whether the party’s messaging/fundraising efforts after the 2020 election helped stoke violence at the Capitol. Story TK

Memorandum & Opinion – #33 in REPUBLICAN NATIONAL COMMITTEE v. PELOSI (D.D.C., 1:22-cv-00659) –...
https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.dcd.241102/gov.uscourts.dcd...

Judge Tim Kelly — a Trump appointee — ruled that the committee’s effort to obtain the RNC’s info was reasonable (and narrowly tailored) in light of evidence that the party stoked claims about a stolen election and joined the Trump campaign to spread that message to supporters.

IMPORTANT: Judge Kelly also swept aside a series of legal arguments against the Jan. 6 committee. He ruled:
-The panel is properly constituted, even without full 13 members
-Liz Cheney can be considered the ranking member
-The RNC subpoena has a “valid legislative purpose.”

This is a landmark ruling that could weigh heavily on dozens of other lawsuits the Jan. 6 committee is fighting against potential witnesses. RNC may appeal but Kelly becomes a particularly important voice of support for the select committee’s mission and tactics.
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George Conway🇺🇦 @gtconway3d | 1:45 AM · May 2, 2022:
Huge win for @January6thCmte.
Not that it matters, but the district judge, Timothy Kelly, was appointed by Trump, once worked as a GOP senate staffer, and for many years has been a member of the Federalist Society.

https://www.fox8tv.com/trey-gowdy-the-only-republicans-the-media-likes-are-eithe...
Trey Gowdy: The only Republicans the media likes are either dead, defeated, or voting with Democrats

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And they are the only GOPers who still had/have moral compasses that were/are in working order. When push comes to shove, Gowdy falls back to his modern-day GOP tribal instincts. Equating an insurrection plot with crap that happens in politics on all levels all the time is ludacris. Today's GOPers have been very lucky ~ sadly, the majority of Americans have very short memories and even shorter attention spans.

"Doc" Ronny Jackson Won't Cooperate with J6 Committee

Somebody's lying. R-TX congressman, Doc Ronny, swears he doesn't know any of the Oath Keepers. But they know him. New York Times congressional reporter Luke Broadwater said, "somebody's not telling the truth here."

". . .according to their (Oath Keepers) own encrypted messages," said Broadwater. "One of them appears to have his cell phone number because Stewart Rhodes, the leader of the Oath Keepers, asks the person to pass on his information to Rep. Jackson so that he would be in contact with them. They seem to know that he's moving around in the Capitol and that he needs protection and that he has data that they want preserved."

That data and other things are what the J6 Committee wants to ask Doc Ronny about, but he won't answer their questions, "I will not participate in the illegitimate Committee’s ruthless crusade against President Trump and his allies,” his statement said.

Could it be because the questions focus on his part in the seditious conspiracy?

"Why would these individuals have an interest in your specific location? Why would they believe you 'have critical data to protect?' Why would they direct their members to protect your personal safety? With whom did you speak by cell phone that day?"

The letter also asks, "If you had no contact with the individuals who sent these messages, who else would have informed them of your security needs or your location?"

BTW, somebody tell the ignoramus witchdoctor that the committee's legally legitimate and has been recognized to be so by several courts in the land, including today.

The DOJ Is Finally Asking the Jan. 6 Committee for Help
Here’s why that’s a huge deal.
Dennis Aftergut, Norman L. Eisen, and Stuart Gerson | May 19, 2022

...the Justice Department has asked the House Select Committee to Investigate the Jan. 6 Attack on the Capitol to provide transcriptions of the witness depositions and interviews that it has conducted... the department’s letter explained that the transcripts “may contain information relevant to a criminal investigation we are conducting.”

...three reasons we believe the DOJ revelation is such an important inflection point.

First, the investigatory train of accountability for higher-ups in the Trump administration appears to have left the station...

...Second, while Attorney General Merrick Garland has been criticized for the lack of visible action against Trump and other senior government officials, we have previously pointed to signs that the DOJ‘s investigation was actually climbing the investigative ladder toward those at the top.

...Third, the Justice Department letter tells us that Garland understands that the clock is ticking toward 2024.

...Our view is that DOJ delivered its letter with keen timing as the committee’s investigative work is winding down. An earlier request disclosing an accelerating DOJ criminal investigation could have chilled cooperation from multiple possible targets of that investigation, individuals whose testimony is now on the record...

https://slate.com/news-and-politics/2022/05/doj-request-jan-6-committee-trump-in...

Lordy!

Eastman provides new details of Trump’s direct role in legal effort to overturn election
Kyle Cheney | 05/20/2022

The court filing describes the direct role of Trump himself in developing strategy, detailing “two hand-written notes from former President Trump about information that he thought might be useful for the anticipated litigation.” ...

Eastman is also urging the judge, U.S. District Court Judge David Carter of California, to shield dozens of contacts with state legislators, some of whom he advised to appoint slates of pro-Trump electors, overriding the certified results of the popular vote in their states.

...The emails in question are all among 90,000 pages of correspondence Eastman sent from his account at Chapman University, where he worked during his bid to help Trump overturn the election. The select committee subpoenaed Chapman for the documents, and Eastman sued to prevent the school from complying...

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/05/20/eastman-trump-role-legal-overturn-elect...

First on CNN: Giuliani meets (virtually) with January 6 committee for more than 9 hours
Ryan Nobles and Paula Reid | May 20, 2022

...In its subpoena, the committee alleges that Giuliani "actively promoted claims of election fraud on behalf of the former President and sought to convince state legislators to take steps to overturn the election results." The subpoena also states that Giuliani was in contact with Trump and members of Congress "regarding strategies for delaying or overturning the results of the 2020 election."...

https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/20/politics/rudy-giuliani-january-6-committee/index....

It was 623 days from the Watergate break-in to the indictments being handed down against Haldeman, Ehrlichman, Mitchell and 4 others.
623 days from January 6th, 2021 is September 21st.
Just a date to keep in the back of your mind.

Of course, if January 6th were Trump's only crime, or his first, this would be a more significant metric. The reality is that by any measure, when it comes to abuse of power by the last administration, our system has thus far failed us.

- David Rothkopf @djrothkopf | 4:46 PM · May 29, 2022
https://twitter.com/djrothkopf/status/1531014018613358592

DOJ subpoenas Peter Navarro, while he sues over commission:

Peter Navarro, Former Trump Aide, Gets Grand Jury Subpoena in Jan. 6 Inquiry
Luke Broadwater and Alan Feuer | May 30, 2022

Peter Navarro, who as a White House adviser to President Donald J. Trump worked to keep Mr. Trump in office after his defeat in the 2020 election, disclosed on Monday that he has been summoned to testify on Thursday to a federal grand jury and to provide prosecutors with any records he has related to the attack on the Capitol last year, including “any communications” with Mr. Trump...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/30/us/politics/peter-navarro-jan-6-subpoena.html

A federal grand jury has indicted former Trump administration aide Peter Navarro on two counts of contempt of Congress...House select committee investigating the deadly Jan. 6 Capitol riot.

...He was charged with one count for refusing to appear for a deposition and another for refusing to produce the documents.

..Each count of contempt of Congress is punishable by a maximum of one year in jail, as well as a fine of up to $100,000, according to the DOJ.

https://www.axios.com/2022/06/03/peter-navarro-indicted-congress-contempt-trump
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ETA

...Court documents indicate that the government requested that Navarro's indictment be sealed until his "arrest operation is executed." The U.S. Attorney’s Office told NBC News that Navarro “is in custody pending the court appearance” later Friday.

"The events leading to the charges in the Indictment have been the subject of public scrutiny and concern," federal prosecutors wrote in the motion to keep the case sealed until Navarro's arrest. Public disclosure of the indictment, they wrote, "would give the Defendant the opportunity to flee, tamper with witnesses or evidence, or take other steps to interfere with the criminal case."...

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2020-election/former-trump-adviser-peter-navarr...

Before Jan. 6, Aide Warned Secret Service of Security Risk to Pence
Maggie Haberman | June 3, 2022

The day before a mob of President Donald J. Trump’s supporters stormed the Capitol on Jan. 6, 2021, Vice President Mike Pence’s chief of staff called Mr. Pence’s lead Secret Service agent to his West Wing office.

The chief of staff, Marc Short, had a message for the agent, Tim Giebels: The president was going to turn publicly against the vice president, and there could be a security risk to Mr. Pence because of it.

The stark warning — the only time Mr. Short flagged a security concern during his tenure as Mr. Pence’s top aide — was uncovered recently during research by this reporter for an upcoming book, “Confidence Man: The Making of Donald Trump and the Breaking of America,” to be published in October.

Mr. Short did not know what form such a security risk might take...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/03/us/politics/trump-pence-safety-jan-6.html

Interesting analysis:

Barb McQuade @BarbMcQuade | 11:13 PM · Jun 3, 2022:
@UMichLaw prof; legal analyst @NBCNews , @MSNBC ; former US Attorney, national security prosecutor, EDMI

DOJ says decision to treat Meadows and Scavino differently from Navarro and Bannon for contempt of Congress is based on “facts and circumstances.” What facts and circumstances could make a difference when flouting a subpoena? Here are some possibilities … (THREAD)

https://twitter.com/BarbMcQuade/status/1532923585337212930

Can America Handle the Truth?

J6 Committee Public Hearings Commence June 9th, 2022.

Coming to a TV near you this THURSDAY! Check your local listings and be sure to have plenty of popcorn on hand as the Nation awaits the answer to "WHO WANTED TO MURDER MIKE PENCE?"

See the next "John Dean". . .

"Cassidy Hutchinson, a top aide to then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows, has sat for multiple depositions with investigators — more than 20 hours — and is expected to play a starring role in the hearings, according to people familiar with the matter.

"The Washington Post reported late last month that Hutchinson had told the committee that Meadows remarked to others that Trump indicated support for hanging his vice president after rioters who stormed the Capitol on that day started chanting, 'Hang Mike Pence!'"

A real blockbuster tell-all expected from the pair of inside-iest insiders: Jared & Ivanka taped interviews before the committee are expected to be aired.

"Everybody will pay attention when Jared and Ivanka talk on video. It doesn’t matter how damning the presentations are,” (a) source said.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/07/course-fox-news-isnt-airing-j...
Of course Fox News isn’t airing the Jan. 6 committee hearings

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Murdoch wants to provide a Thursday night meet-up place for white supremacists & white nationalists & all the other lunatics living amongst us. Apparently, Murdoch was displeased with 20th Century Australia when he moved to the USA. Now, he is displeased with 21st Century America. Maybe a move to the moon is in order while he awaits the Grim Reaper's appearance.

Peter Navarro tonight: “Help me, please! I’m looking at a half million dollars in legal expenses .. or more! This could go to a million. I’ve got to raise that money. I can’t kill my retirement!”
0:30 ( https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1534723673009037313 )

- Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 @RonFilipkowski | 10:26 PM · Jun 8, 2022

>41 margd: Poor Peter! His priorities are so weird.

I thought I heard that filmmaker state yesterday, on a talk show before the committee hearing, that there was a Trump campaign member at the parking garage meeting Jan. 5 between the Proud Boys and Oath Keepers.

I expected to hear that tidbit at the hearing, but I didn’t. Now I can’t track it down.

>43 2wonderY: Maybe later? Last night was equivalent of opening argument, and I read that commission was being careful to use in the hearing, only info that could be fully confirmed--so as not to give disreputable Rs an opening to dispute? Report will be comprehensive?

Trump Is Depicted as a Would-Be Autocrat Seeking to Hang Onto Power at All Costs
Peter Baker | June 9, 2022

As the Jan. 6 committee outlined during its prime-time hearing, Donald J. Trump executed a seven-part conspiracy to overturn a free and fair democratic election.

...As the committee portrayed it during its prime-time televised hearing, Mr. Trump executed a seven-part conspiracy to overturn a free and fair democratic election. According to the panel, he
lied to the American people,
ignored all evidence refuting his false fraud claims,
pressured state and federal officials to throw out election results favoring his challenger,
encouraged a violent mob to storm the Capitol and even
signaled support for the execution of his own vice president.

...Unwavering, (Representative Liz Cheney of Wyoming) she sketched out the case and then addressed her fellow Republicans who have chosen to stand by their defeated former president and excuse his actions.

“I say this to my Republican colleagues who are defending the indefensible: There will come a day when Donald Trump is gone but your dishonor will remain,” she said.

Many of the details were previously reported, and many questions about Mr. Trump’s actions were left unanswered for now, but Ms. Cheney pulled together the committee’s central findings in relentless, prosecutorial fashion...

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/06/09/us/politics/trump-jan-6-hearing.html
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ETA

January 6 Vice Chair Cheney said Trump had a 'seven-part plan' to overturn the election. Here's what she meant
Dana Bash, Jake Tapper and Jeremy Herb | June 10, 2022

...A committee source later provided CNN the following description...:

"President Trump oversaw a sophisticated seven-part plan to overturn the 2020 election and prevent the transition of presidential power.

President Trump engaged in a massive effort to spread false and fraudulent information to the American public claiming the 2020 election was stolen from him.

President Trump corruptly planned to replace the Acting Attorney General, so that the Department of Justice would support his fake election claims.

President Trump corruptly pressured Vice President Pence to refuse to count certified electoral votes in violation of the US Constitution and the law.

President Trump corruptly pressured state election officials, and state legislators, to change election results.

President Trump's legal team and other Trump associates instructed Republicans in multiple states to create false electoral slates and transmit those slates to Congress and the National Archives.

President Trump summoned and assembled a violent mob in Washington and directed them to march on the US Capitol.

As the violence was underway, President Trump ignored multiple pleas for assistance and failed to take immediate action to stop the violence and instruct his supporters to leave the Capitol.

These are initial findings and the Select Committee's investigation is still ongoing. In addition, the Department of Justice is currently working with cooperating witnesses, and has disclosed to date only certain of the information it has identified from encrypted communications and other sources."...

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/09/politics/jan-6-hearing-cheney-trump-overturn-elec...

https://www.mediaite.com/trump/trump-throws-ivanka-under-the-bus-she-was-checked...
Trump Throws Ivanka Under the Bus: She Was ‘Checked Out’ and ‘Not Involved’ in Studying Election Results

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This is an indication of how far away from reality Trump has wandered. At the end, ALL of his close WH enablers had to jump on the reality train that was leaving the station.

The Washington Post has posted the 11 minute video montage that the committee presented last evening:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/investigations/2022/06/10/jan6-new-video/

I hadn’t seen it last night as I was only listening to the proceedings.

Trump saying the mob was “doing what they should be doing” as Cheney just quoted him and “Mike Pence deserves it” are new. Haven’t gotten that level of specificity before.

Personally I am *anti* a rabid mob lynching the Vice President.

- Chris Hayes (MSNBC) @chrislhayes | 8:18 PM · Jun 9, 2022

>46 2wonderY: Thx. I only listened, too, realizing later I probably missed much in visuals.

Liz Cheney: GOP Members Sought Pardons Over Jan 6 Role
Rep. Liz Cheney said multiple GOP members of Congress sought presidential pardons for their alleged role in shaping the events of January 6 (Rep Scott Perry, involve in trying to get Clark apptd as AG)

0:27 ( https://twitter.com/nowthisnews/status/1535106014521040896 )

- NowThis @nowthisnews | 11:46 PM · Jun 9, 2022

https://www.mediaite.com/news/just-in-ex-fox-news-editor-chris-stirewalt-who-bla...
JUST IN: Ex-Fox News Editor Chris Stirewalt, Who Blames Network For Fueling Capitol Riot, to Testify at Hearings

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He will be appearing on Monday morning. He has said that Murdoch's "hype guys" ~ Carlson and Hannity ~ fed the low info people the lies they wanted to hear for the two months prior to their 1/6 trips to DC.

The Headline from Last Night's First Televised J6 Committee Hearing

Multiple GOP Congress critters sought presidential pardons. -- Liz Cheney (R-WY)

Obviously, we're all anxious to know the who's who. How long will we have to wait for the committee to name names? Until that time, there are two elements regardingthe headline that we all need to comprehend. Why? Because they're both legally damning.

1. Thinking you need a pardon indicates an awareness of criminality.
2. Soliciting a pardon is the admission of having committed a crime. In a word, GUILT.

So multiple Republican lawmakers knowingly sought to overthrow a legitimate government, i.e. attempted criminal sedition, and by their own actions clearly were aware that they not only were lawbreakers but had violated the Constitution that they were sworn to uphold. To state it plainly, those Trumpty-Dumbpty "multiples" are un-American criminals and the DOJ needs to charge them as such then prosecute them to the fullest extent (20 years in prison) of the law.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/newsmaxs-greg-kelly-rips-attractive-blonde-capitol-c...
Newsmax’s Greg Kelly Rips ‘Attractive Blonde’ Capitol Cop That Rioters Knocked Unconscious: ‘In Other Words, You Fell’

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Some gals in the USA are married to some very despicable dudes ~ Kelly and Carlson are just two of some of the prime-time examples.

January 6th Committee @January6thCmte | 10:56 PM · Jun 9, 2022:

"Trump gave no order to deploy the National Guard that day, and made no effort to work with the Department of Justice to coordinate and deploy law enforcement assets. But Mike Pence did." - @RepLizCheney

2:04 ( https://twitter.com/January6thCmte/status/1535093446121332738 )
Testimony from General Milley, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff:

In a nutshell, a readable analysis of Eastman legally indefensible proposal to Pence:
only three pages.

Pence-world’s final takedown of Trump’s Jan. 6 bid to remain in power revealed in his lawyer's memo
Betsy Woodruff Swan and Kyle Cheney | 06/11/2022

...(5 Jan 2021) In the three-page document,* attorney Greg Jacob concluded that if Pence were to embrace Trump’s demand that he single-handedly block or delay the counting of electoral votes on Jan. 6, he would be breaking multiple provisions of the Electoral Count Act, the law that has governed the transfer of power since 1887...

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/06/11/pence-trump-jan-6-lawyer-memo-00038996
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* https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/22058340-greg-jacob-jan-5-memo

Sure hope Liz Cheney has some serious security around her...

Rep. Liz Cheney @RepLizCheney | 1:25 PM · Jun 10, 2022:

The former President did not condemn the attack on the Capitol building. He justified it.

1:42 ( https://twitter.com/RepLizCheney/status/1535312230132195328 )
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Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 @RonFilipkowski | 8:29 AM · Jun 11, 2022:
Attorney, Marine, Triathlete, Historian. Fmr Fed Prosecutor & Repub; now Defense Att & Democrat. Track and Report on the Right-Wing. Seen on BBC, CNN, MSNBC.

Steve Bannon is fuming about a criminal indictment of Trump: “I dare Merrick Garland to take that crap last night and try to indict Donald Trump! Because we’re gonna win in Nov and we’re gonna impeach you and everybody around you! F*ck - screw the WH - we’re gonna impeach you!”
0:27 ( https://twitter.com/RonFilipkowski/status/1535600155805855744 )

Donald Trump has posted 14 deranged rants on Truth Social about the J6 Committee since the hearing ended. But he’s not worried.

>53 margd: contd.

Kyle Cheney (Politico) @kyledcheney | 5:43 PM · Jun 11, 2022:
A point that hasn’t gotten a lot of attention: If Pence went through with this and the courts, as Eastman hoped, ruled they had no power to decide this “political question,” — Jacob came to believe the only recourse would have been “in the streets.”

Memo-Jacob to Eastman 1:05 pm* 6 Jan 2021
https://twitter.com/kyledcheney/status/1535739488122585089/photo/1

https://politico.com/news/2022/06/11/pence-trump-jan-6-lawyer-memo-00038996
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*Coincidentally,
A timeline of how the Jan. 6 attack unfolded — including who said what and when
Kat Lonsdorf, Courtney Dorning, Mary Louise Kelly, Ailsa Chang | June 9, 2022

12 p.m.
At noon, Trump begins speaking to his supporters at a rally near the White House...

1 p.m.
An initial wave of protesters storms the outer police barrier around the Capitol...

1:05 p.m.
House Speaker Nancy Pelosi bangs the gavel to call the joint session of Congress to order...

1:30 p.m.
On the steps on the backside of the Capitol, protesters overcome the police, who run back into the building. Protesters watching from the sidelines cheer as a mob breaks through the final police barricades. Inside the building, both the House and Senate proceed, with lawmakers seemingly unaware of the mayhem outside...

https://www.npr.org/2022/01/05/1069977469/a-timeline-of-how-the-jan-6-attack-unf...

Barb McQuade @BarbMcQuade | 9:59 AM · Jun 12, 2022:
@UMichLaw prof; legal analyst @NBCNews , @MSNBC ; former US Attorney, national security prosecutor, EDMI

While it’s important for J6C to tell the whole story, a criminal case could be as simple as this:
Trump knew he lost the election and pressured Pence to steal it for him. That’s
conspiracy to defraud US, 18 USC 371, and
conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding, 18 USC 1512.

The Headline from 2nd J6 Committee Hearing

Donald J. Trump is two things that characterize common habitual criminals:
1. a LOSER
2. a CONMAN who continues to bilk his marks (Trumpty-Dumbpties) for hundreds of millions of dollars by flogging the Big Lie.

But of course, you knew that already.

Are These the Faces of a Winning Campaign?

Taken election night 2020; published exclusively in Betrayal: The Final Act of the Trump Show, by Jonathan Karl.


For more photos, click.

https://www.mediaite.com/tv/watch-jan-6-committee-releases-video-showing-congres...
WATCH: Jan. 6 Committee Releases Video Showing Congressman Leading a Capitol Tour With Rioter Day Before Attack

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One of the male tour members is taking a photo of a stairway!!!

Not seeing news reports yet:

DOJ’s urgent request today for the J6 committee immediately to turn over all transcripts must be complied with at once. That request makes clear that “others” high in Trump’s government are already being actively investigated by DOJ. Wonder who those “others” might be?

- Laurence Tribe tribelaw | 2:54 PM · Jun 16, 2022

The Headline from the 3rd J6 Committee Hearing

Murder Was Afoot

It was Mike Pence Day on June 17th, 2022 -- and January 6th, 2021 when he was not a Republican, not an Evangelical, but an American.

He, though not present, was the corporeal representative of democratic values while retired Judge Luttig, a lifelong Republican (who was present), appeared before the Select Committee as the representative and defender of the abstract idea of the Great Experiment. What, in terms of take-aways, did they have to tell us about the events surrounding Trump's coup attempt?

1. DJT is a murderous criminal, in both the abstract and concrete: He tried to kill the people's faith in their election system; he tried to kill the tradition of peaceful transfer of power; he tried to kill the bedrock foundation of our democracy, the Rule of Law; and he literally tried to employ a violent mob to kill then VP Pence who had refused to go along with his nefarious scheme to stay in power illegally.

2. DJT and his Trumpty-Dumbpties are legally speaking a "clear and present danger" to America because they have already embraced violence and intend to use it again to seize power in 2024 if the election doesn't go the wannabe dictator's way.

Judge Luttig's Statement to the Select Committee

If students in America's public schools were required to take a civics/American government course, this (really) essay by a retired officer of the court and a deep thinker on the topic of American democracy and its bedrock, the Rule of Law.

Perhaps most chilling is Judge Luttig's warning to us all that we are at war in this country. It is a war being fought between those who wish the destruction of American democracy and those who wish to hold onto the ideal of forming a more perfect union based on that basic principle -- the Rule of Law.

The hour is late. God is watching us.

Ginni, Make a Date

Virginia "Ginni" Thomas, wife of SCOTUS justice, Clarence, has received a politely worded letter to appear before the J6 Committee to deliver her testimony early in July of this year since. . .

“I can’t wait to clear up misconceptions," Thomas told the far-right Daily Caller. "I look forward to talking to them."

America looks forward to hearing you NOT plead the 5th, Ginni.

https://www.vox.com/2022/6/16/23171707/january-6-hearing-pence-trump
What if there had been no adults in the room on January 6?

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Pence's heroism will not be recognized by very many people in either political party at this point in time. It will, however, be cherished by Americans far into the future ~ he is today's Paul-Revere-type hero.

I’m glad to know Pence had a line he would not cross.

FWIW Trump was a crass upstart to most evangelicals back in 2016. Their guy was Michael Pence. That needs to be remembered too. Making Pence his VP running mate solidified the evangelical vote behind Trump. They saw their guy (who was way too conservative and fundamentalist to ever build enough momentum to win the presidency on his own) one step away from the presidency. Since then a lot has changed and Pence is no longer their guy. Trump is and despite all the lies and terrible behavior. He's their guy now because since he came into power they've been getting things that before they could only dream of and one of them is rolling back Roe vs. Wade.

I can appreciate that Pence didn't budge or roll over for Trump on Jan. 6 like most of the rest of his party has and all the hypocritical right wingers out here who make excuses all the time for Trump notwithstanding and want to see themselves as morally virtuous and that showed something but people like Pence have always been part of the problem.

Opinion
Op-Ed: The insurrection won’t end until Trump is prosecuted and disqualified from future office
Laurence H. Tribe, Phillip Allen Lacovara and Dennis Aftergut | June 20, 2022

In a powerful warning Thursday, the patron saint of the conservative legal movement, former federal appellate Judge J. Michael Luttig, testified before the Jan. 6 Committee and pronounced former President Trump and his allies a “clear and present danger” to American constitutional democracy. As Luttig knows better than most, this historic phrase generates an extraordinary constitutional power of government to act — and a duty to do so.

Luttig’s verdict should be understood as a plea for Atty. Gen. Merrick Garland to proceed toward charging Trump with federal crimes that the public record now amply establishes. Only then will this nation be able to move forward from the ongoing insurrection.

Beyond the avalanche of documents and testimony pointing to Trump’s guilt and the principle that no one is above the law, there is an additional reason to indict Trump for his multi-faceted conspiracy in 2020 to override the vote. Upon a conviction for inciting insurrection, or being an accessory to insurrection, Trump would be subject to disqualification from acquiring federal office.

Section 3 of the 14th Amendment directs: “No person shall . . . hold any office . . . under the United States . . . who, having previously taken an oath . . . as an officer of the United States . . . to support the Constitution shall have engaged in insurrection or rebellion against the same.’'...

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-06-20/jan-6-insurrection-prosecution-...
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Trump may have eye on Speaker's position (2022), not just President (2024). Imagine the damage he could do there... Apparently, speaker doesn't have to be an elected rep?

Newsmax @newsmax | 8:25 AM · Jun 20, 2022:
Former President Donald Trump explained that his recent endorsement of House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy, R-Calif., concerned the lawmaker's reelection bid and not the speaker’s position. https://bit.ly/3NktDrH

Here, the good judge speaks at a much better speed, but there's a transcript as well.

J. Michael Luttig, Former Federal Judge
Frontline | May 25, 2022
2:43:33 (and transcript)

J. Michael Luttig served on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Fourth Circuit from 1991 to 2006. Prior to his time on the bench, Luttig was assistant counsel to the president under Ronald Reagan and clerked for then-judge Antonin Scalia and for Supreme Court Justice Warren Burger. He also served as assistant attorney general in charge of the Office of Legal Counsel in the Department of Justice under George H.W. Bush. After leaving government service in 2006, he entered the private sector, where he has worked for both Boeing and Coca-Cola. He is currently retired.

The following interview was conducted by the Kirk Documentary Group’s Mike Wiser for FRONTLINE on May 25, 2022. It was filmed for a forthcoming documentary looking at challenges to American democracy.

Rising Concern During the 2016 Elections
The Trump Presidency
The 2020 Election
Initial Response to the 2020 Election Results
Growing Concern of a Constitutional Crisis
A Call From Richard Cullen (VP Pense's outside counsel)
“We need to help the vice president.”
An “Assault From Within”
The Jan. 6 Attack on the Capitol
A Call from the Vice President
The Response to the Events of Jan. 6
A “Clear and Present Danger”*
The Twitter Thread

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/interview/j-michael-luttig/
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* Guest Essay: The Conservative Case for Avoiding a Repeat of Jan. 6
J. Michael Luttig | Feb. 14, 2022

The clear and present danger to our democracy now is that former President Donald Trump and his political allies appear prepared to exploit the Electoral Count Act of 1887, the law governing the counting of votes for president and vice president, to seize the presidency in 2024 if Mr. Trump or his anointed candidate is not elected by the American people....

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/02/14/opinion/electoral-count-act.html
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Greg Sargent @ThePlumLineGS | 12:57 PM · Jun 17, 2022:

Note this: Judge Luttig's foreboding is shared by scholars of democratic breakdown.
I talked to Luttig and Steven Levitsky, co-author of "How Democracies Die."
Both agreed that what GOP leaders do now is critical. Remarkable stuff from both of them:
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Opinion: Stunning Trump revelations raise fears of a dark, violent future
Greg Sargent | June 17, 2022

...“The former president and his allies,” Luttig continued, “are executing that blueprint for 2024 in open and plain view of the American public.”...

...The foreboding expressed by Luttig and others is shared by experts who study democratic breakdown. When Luttig says we’re at a “perilous crossroads,” and says only Republicans can “bring an end” to the threat, he’s not alone.

Two of those experts, Steven Levitsky and Lucan Way, professors of government and politics, recently argued that we’re heading into a “coming age of instability.” This is not a claim of pending “civil war.” It’s more subtle: a future of smoldering conflict akin to “the Troubles” in Ireland.

...How GOP leaders respond to the moment will help determine whether that happens, the scholars noted. It bodes badly that GOP leaders rejected a bipartisan Jan. 6 accounting and have “refused to unambiguously reject violence.”

If GOP leaders treated the Jan. 6 committee’s findings as revelatory and significant, Levitsky continued, it might steer us toward greater stability. This would prompt “institutional reform,” he said, and send a message to all levels of the party that “this is beyond the pale. We don’t do this in America.”

The alternative: GOP leaders don’t treat this as beyond the pale at all, but instead as containing the makings of a tolerable or even desirable future. This would impose a “great cost,” Levitsky said, because “many Americans will be left with a message of ambiguity.”...

https://washingtonpost.com/opinions/2022/06/17/trump-revelations-jan-6-hearings-...

@judgeluttig @judgeluttig | 5:04 PM · Jun 18, 2022:
https://twitter.com/judgeluttig/status/1538266498879348738

What you could not know, and did not know, but I will tell you now, is that I believed I had an obligation to the Select Committee and to the country, first to formulate . . . then to measure . . . and then . . . to meter out . . .

every . . . single . . . word . . . that I spoke . . . , carefully . . . exactingly . . . and . . . deliberately, so that the words I spoke were pristine clear and would be heard, and therefore understood, as such.

I believed Thursday that I had that high responsibility and obligation -- to myself, even if to no other. Also please bear in mind that Thursday was the first time in 68 years, to my knowledge, I had ever been on national television, let alone national television like that.

And though not scared, I was concerned that I do my very best and not embarrass myself, as I think anyone who found themselves in that frightening circumstance would be.

I decided to respond to your at once astute and understanding tweet finally this afternoon, because I have been watching the tweets all day suggesting that I am recovering from a severe stroke, and my friends, out of their concern for me and my family,

have been earnestly forwarding me these tweets, asking me if I am alright...

The Headline from the 4th Hearing of the J6 Committee

"A Feature, Not a Bug" Probably a RICO Case

Violence and verbal intimidation with threats against personal safety are the favorite tools of DJT who wielded the full weight of presidential power like a weapon in order to bend honorable people to his shameless desire. They are the Rule, not the Exception for the man, his Party, and his followers.

Two things are the major take-away:
1.Donald Trump is the head of a criminal organization that uses death threats, violence, lies, and character assassination to force people to do its bidding. Everything we heard in part one of today's testimony is drawing the line directly between DJT's specific threats to state officials and private citizens and his illegal plot to overthrow the government. That reeks of the definition of RICO, which is successfully used to prosecute organized crime figures by linking their organization's purpose (illegal enrichment -- the ends) to its commitment of crimes (murder, extortion, bribery -- the means).

2.Donald Trump is a terrorist who stoops to targeting private citizens for the sake of holding onto power and corrupting democracy, its institutions, and traditions to serve personal criminal ambitions. Make no mistake, most Republicans, politicians, and voters, are for their organized crime family, aka the Party of Trump and against American democracy, the will of the people and the Rule of Law.

Jan. 6 probe expands with fresh subpoenas in multiple states
Recipients of subpoenas include a state party chairman as officials probe deeper into pro-Trump efforts to use invalid electors to thwart Joe Biden’s 2020 victory
Spencer S. Hsu, Josh Dawsey and Devlin Barrett | June 22, 2022

...court-authorized law enforcement activity...the home of Brad Carver, a Georgia lawyer who allegedly signed a document claiming to be a Trump elector...the Virginia home of Thomas Lane, who worked on the Trump campaign’s efforts in Arizona and New Mexico. T

...subpoena...David Shafer, the chairman of the Georgia Republican Party, who served as a Trump elector in that state

...at least some of the would-be Trump electors in Michigan received subpoenas

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2022/06/22/jan6-fbi-electors-su...

Lawmakers on Jan. 6 committee ramp up their security as threats increase
Amy Gardner, Josh Dawsey and Jacqueline Alemany
June 22, 2022

In the past 24 hours, there has been an uptick in the number of violent threats against lawmakers on the House select committee investigating the Jan. 6, 2021, insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, and all lawmakers on the committee are likely to receive a security detail...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/06/22/jan6-security-threats/

The Headline from the 5th Hearing of the J6 Committee

There Were TWO Attempted Coups Against Our Government by Trump

"Just say the election was corrupt and leave the rest to me and the Republican congressmen." -- Donald J Trump

Three DOJ witnesses testified to the fact that DJT knew he had lost the election fairly. DJT knew full well there was no evidence of election stealing, corruption, or fraud because all the DOJ officials told him on a daily basis that the investigations they conducted disproved all suspicions; in fact, they were all specious.

To get around the fact that he had lost, DJT, Rudy Giuliani, Mark Meadows, and "Dr." Eastman attempted to subvert the DOJ by enlisting an unqualified lackey to send an official DOJ communication to various battleground states that they should take a Mulligan and elect a fake slate of uncertified electors to send to Washington, D.C. on January 6th. Their man was Jeffrey Clark, who had never participated in any investigations into election meddling that the DOJ had been conducting.

Further, DJT and his criminal minions wanted the DOJ to file a specious lawsuit to litigate it's false "case" before the SCOTUS, using private lawyers. The DOJ refused.

Even further, DJT demanded the DOJ appoint a special counsel to further "investigate" and collect "evidence" supporting the Big Lie. His "man" was the "Kraken," Sydney Powell. And his intention was that she would "seize voting machines from states" which the DOJ refused to do since it was: a) illegal b) had no basis in fact c) had no standing as a function of the DOJ.

DJT needed to make Clark USAG.

At 4:19 PM on January 3rd, 2021, Donald J. Trump referred to Jeff Clark as USAG on official WH phone logs. At 6:15 PM that evening in the WH when DJT opened the meeting with a fatal comment, "What do I have to lose?", all the top leadership in the DOJ and all but two US Attorneys (one was unreachable and the other was asked to remain in place by Rosen) threatened a mass resignation because Jeffrey Clark was not considered competent by the Department. "Mr. Clark will be leading a graveyard," said Engels.

DJT backed down. But he made sure to throw the red meat of his defeat to those who would storm the Capitol three days later.

“Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passion, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.” -- John Adams

Laurence Tribe tribelaw | 2:59 AM · Jun 24, 2022
https://twitter.com/tribelaw/status/1540228212407648257

Why didn’t Trump pardon ‘em all on his way out the door?

Easy: Pardons end the danger of criminal self-incrimination and thus prevent their recipients from taking the Fifth w/out being held in contempt.

Dangling pardons protects a corrupt POTUS; granting pardons puts him at risk.

More Congressional Seditionist Sweats

Close followers of the J6 Committee workings may remember this guy. . .

Ali Alexander, the conservative activist behind the "Stop the Steal" movement. . .told congressional investigators that he had communicated with several House Republican lawmakers ahead of the Jan. 6 rally and Capitol riot, along with at least one member of the Trump family's inner circle.

We already know from his Dec. 9, 2021 testimony that he "had a few phone conversations" with Rep. Paul Gosar, R-Ariz., potentially texted Rep. Mo Brooks, R-Ala., and spoke in person to Rep. Andy Biggs, R-Ariz. Could that last bit reported by ABC, though, mean Donald Trump, Jr.? His fiancee of the moment, Kimberly Guilfoyle? Or even Himself?

Now we learn Alexander, aka, Ali Abdul Akbar, testified for nearly three hours before a D.C. grand jury that's conducting a secret probe into Trump's coup attempt. As CNN reported. . .

"Alexander is the first-known, high-profile witness to testify in the confidential criminal investigative proceedings related to rally organizing. In April, he publicly confirmed he. . .would cooperate with federal authorities."

Federal authorities, as in DOJ, as in Merrick Garland's business.

Certainly a few congressmen and a member of the Trump Crime Family are muttering to themselves about this cooperative little devil who just keeps on giving authorities the dirt. See anyone (else) wiping their sweaty palms?

Surprise!

Even though Congress is in recess until after the July 4th holiday, the J6 Committee, which announced a hiatus until after Congress returns has announced a surprise hearing tomorrow at 1 PM ET in order to present new evidence. Witnesses will also be expected to testify in front of the nine.

No announcement of the subject of this hearing has been made. However, semi-informed speculation leads me to believe the hearing may involve British documentarian, Alex Holder, who last week turned over his tapes of the Trump family interviews and filming that he made in the waning days of the last administration, including on January 6th.

There may be incriminating evidence of possible perjury concerning people who have already testified, like Ivanka, Jared, and others. Tune in tomorrow!

https://www.mediaite.com/news/just-in-jan-6-surprise-witness-revealed-as-trump-c...
JUST IN: Jan. 6 Surprise Witness Revealed as Trump Chief’s Right Hand – Here’s What She Knows

The January 6 Committee’s surprise witness has been revealed to be Cassidy Hutchinson, former top aide to Trump White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows and a front-row witness to the events surrounding the day.

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Will Cassidy be the John-Dean-type insider who can seal the deal???

Trump's a pretty stupid fellow, and if he actually thought having a mob invade Congress would frighten all the Congressmen into making him President again, he's even stupider than I thought he was.

Just for the record, the word 'insurrection' should be used to mean an organized attempt to seize control of the state. By that definition, neither 6 January nor the Anti-Fa/BLM violent riots of the previous summer were 'insurrections'.

But if that's what you want to do, you had better make sure you have the military, if not on your side, at least neutralized. Ideally, the same for the police, although generally they can be overwhelmed by numbers. You must seize control of the communication system, both private and the media. You arrest the people who could be leaders of resistance to the insurrection. You put up roadblocks to keep your enemies from coming together. You announce the new government, and reassure everyone that all services will be soon restored, prisoners released, and free elections held. Soon.

It's just ABC. As Marx said, you don't play at insurrection.

For those of you thinking of organizing one, the goto book is Trotsky's History of the Russian Revolution. The how-not-to-do-it book is "A. Neuberg"'s Armed Insurrection. (The author's name is a pseudonym -- the book is actually a collection of essays, many from people who ignored the rules of insurrection in the 1920s and paid the price for it.)

Both are available via free download from https://Marxists.org -- where you can find hundreds of other free downloadable books by Marxists of various flavors.

>78 Doug1943:

In a word, Doug1943. . .BULLSHIT

Ring kissers, no better, ass kissers, of Donald Trump, will refuse to acknowledge two things:
1. That The Big Lie was never more than that.
and
2. That the insurrection wasn't an insurrection, it was just___________. Fill in the blank with a deceptive, deflecting euphemism.

No one who listened to today's testimony and any that has preceded can deny that the insurrection was anything but an ORGANIZED, PLANNED, SECRETIVE attempt to violently overthrow the legitimate government of the USA by SENDING armed right wing nut groups and brainless followers to invade the Capitol and to "fight' for the Big Lie by exercising their false 2nd Amendment rights. Oh -- and to hang Mike Pence when they caught him. Just like their Cowardly Leader, they believed, "He deserves it." Never mind what they thought Speaker Pelosi deserved, which would be too disgusting to post in comments where I will bring up the name of finally "disgusted" Cassidy Hutchinson, advisor and chief-of-staff to the Chief-of-Staff of then President Traitor, who never managed to get around to resigning in spite of being "disgusted."

Try downloading the truth. Have the honesty to acknowledge that facts are facts and evidence is evidence. No one with any capacity for reason can not tell right from wrong and deny the truth when they hear and see it. Even a "little person," like 25 year-old Cassidy realizes and admits the truth when repeatedly hit over the head with the facts of her own observations that what was going on around her (from at least January 3rd to days following January 6th) was dangerous, criminal, disgusting, and fully intended by Trumpty-Dumbpty.

Of course, this is what Leftists want to believe -- the same people who solemnly assured us that the violent riots of the preceding summer were just "mostly peaceful protests".

American Leftists have no knowledge of real revolutions. Except for a few little Marxist sects, they don't think in terms of the seizure of power. They're pursuing their goals by other means.

All i can say is that if you think that a mob of idiots invading Congress was the way you seize power, then ... well, I hope if you ever try to do it, you do it that way.

What were they thinking? "We'll scare those Congressmen into voting to make Trump president?" Really? Maybe they were, but if so, they were truly dumb. I don't think they were thinking at all.

Let everyone who violated the law, be subject to the law. Rioters and looters, or the dumb-asses who invaded Congress. If there were people who were actually trying to carry out an armed coup, then let them be prosecuted for sedition. Playing around with guns and talking about revolution doesn't count ... or if it does, the Socialist Rifle Association is in big trouble.

Of course, I'm sure you condemn violent anti-Fa attacks on conservative rallies, and the violent attacks on conservative speakers at campuses, just as I would condemn rightwing attacks on similar events hosted by the Left. So there we can agree ... so long as the right to free speech remains, and democratic elections occur, violence of any sort has no place in our society.

>80 Doug1943: That you equate political protests that are typically protected by the US government with an actual insurrection attempt by an armed, armored, and deadly force on Congress during election certification is very interesting. Perhaps I misunderstood. There were riots instigated by White supremacist groups admist the historic high levels of street protests in the summer of 2020. The violence certainly had connections to the Capital Hill attack in January 2021.

edited because time is extra slippery anymore

No, most of the violence was the authentic expression of BLM/AntiFa. I'm familiar with the incident you're talking about, in Minneapolis I think, where a white supremacist started smashing windows. The mob didn't have to follow him but it did. And elsewhere it was authentic.

You're doing just what many of my fellow rightwingers are now doing re 6 January. They now realize what a PR disaster 6 January was for our side, so they're seeking to blame 'provocateurs'. Yes, there may have been some. But the mob chose to let itself be provoked. If you want to blame Trump, then he didn't do enough to restrain them, assuming he wanted to in the first place.

But neither the Leftist violent riots of the summer, nor the Rightist violent riot of 6 January, was a serious organized attempt to seize power. That's just not how you do it.

The Headline from the 6th Hearing of the J6 Committee

The MOGUL Has No Defense

On January 6, 2021, Donald Trump wanted to "hang Mike Pence." He knew that the crowd of people awaiting his speech were armed but that, "They're not there to hurt me."

Well, karma is a bitch. "She" literally hanged Donald Trump and Mark Meadows in today's surprising hearing when Cassidy Hutchinson confirmed what has been building from this investigation: That DJT is a power hungry traitor who only listens to like-minded power hungry co-conspirators. On January 6, 2021 he and his co-conspirators incited and set on foot an insurrection to overthrow the legitimate government of the United States, a specific felony which is defined and delineated here. §2383. Rebellion or insurrection. In a word, Trump's intent was to drive an INSURRECTION.

Cassidy Hutchinson wasn't just a fly on the wall, she is the major fly in the ointment for her former boss; DJT's Chief-of-Staff, Mark Meadows; as well as the WH counsel to Donald Trump, Pasquale "Pat" Cipollone. Meadows is the lynch-pin and prime facilitator of the conspiracy and of the conspirators' efforts to cover-up who incited the insurrection; who set on foot the insurrection; who assisted the conspirators; and who engaged in the conspiracy and/or the insurrection; and who provided aid and comfort.

The deeds and the cover-up.

It's always the cover-up that delivers the payoff that betrays criminal conspirators. Among whom are (to name but a heinous few) Roger Stone, Steve Bannon, Mark Flynn, Rudy Giuliani, Sydney Powell, Mark Gaetz, Mo Brooks, Andy Biggs, Louie Gohmert, Scott Perry, Marjorie Taylor Greene, "Pillow Guy," Jeffrey Clark, John Eastman, and Mark Meadows. In addition, anyone else who sought a pardon for their activities related to the invasion of the Capitol, plus other lickspittle Republicans who did nothing to stop or report the conspiracy, or who contributed to it in some way (such as the rally planners and financiers).

What we learned today is, at the very least the presidential cabinet members should have invoked Amendment 25, instead of just mulling the idea of it over. But their loyalty was to MOGUL, not their oaths. They did nothing required by their duty to the Constitution out of fear of Trump and their personal futures. Some sought escape from responsibility for their enabling roles by resigning. Still, they kept (and keep) their mouths shut about what they know in re what was going on in the WH and among their colleagues, their awareness of the president's plans for January 6th, and their knowledge of the satellite supporters of the president's Big Lie.

No one in the WH can plead ignorance of the seditious conspiracy happening under their noses. Nor can they pretend ignorance of the intent of the president to execute his self-defined role as commander-in-chief to his armed Big Lie rabble and brown shirt militant mob. Trump's WH counsel, Pat Cipollone was literally running down the West Wing halls (while Trump was haranguing the crowd on the Ellipse) to tell Cassidy and anyone else who would listen to do whatever it takes to stop the president from going to the Capitol at the head of his "troops" because, "We're going to be charged with every crime imaginable if we make that movement happen."

Intent. Conspiracy. Plot. Incitement. Soldiers. Violence. Sedition. It's all there, and more.

A dude here appears to be on a mission to make billions of people on the globe doubt what they saw and heard on that eventful day.

Doug, you've created a straw person, the Leftist, and your posts verge on ad hominem attacks on what this mythical extremist is supposed to believe. No doubt there are a few extremists on the left, but your characterisation of "Leftists" bears no relation to my experience of people who are left of centre, nor indeed people who are moderate centrists, who I believe are also viewed as leftist by the extreme right. Incidentally, Biden is not a Leftist, and neither are most of your Democrats.

As a resident of Minneapolis, I have to say that Doug has no idea what he is talking about. A white supremist started the fire in the police precinct and shot a gun in the air, the umbrella man who started the riot was also a white supremist. Yes, there were non-white supremist bad actors after that. None of them were "BLM" and Antifa literally wasn't even here. Almost no one arrested for rioting was even from Minneapolis.

Please don't talk about my city, Doug. What you are saying LITERALLY did not happen here.

>85 John5918:

Check.

I also think that >78 Doug1943: imputes far too much knowledge and rather too much intelligence to most of those who invaded the Capitol. In my view many of them (ignorantly) — and like the truckers in Ottawa — thought that what they were doing was overthrowing an illegitimate government. Their ignorance renders moot the question of whether their riot met an academic standard for insurrection; they were attempting insurrection. If you wish, there was undoubtedly mens rea.

Instead, today's installment causes me to ponder just what the tantrum-prone First Child intended to do had he gone in person to the Capitol. Stand on steps and make another speech? Not likely. What I imagined was some sort of replay of Charles I bursting into the House of Commons on January 4, (interesting that!) 1642 to arrest five MPs. That did not end well for Charles.

News & Politics |
Another J6 Trump 'Bombshell' Outed as a Hoax! |
By Matt Margolis Jun 28, 2022 8:17 PM ET

"On Tuesday, the liberal media soiled themselves over the so-called bombshell story that on January 6, 2021, President Trump grabbed the steering wheel of the presidential limo and then lunged at a Secret Service agent because he wanted to join the protesters at the Capitol.

"The story came courtesy of Cassidy Hutchinson, a former aide to Trump’s chief of staff, Mark Meadows.

“So when the president had gotten into the vehicle with (Secret Service agent) Bobby (Engel), he thought that they were going up to the Capitol. And when Bobby had relayed to him, ‘We’re not, we don’t have the assets to do it, it’s not secure, we’re going back to the West Wing,’ the president had a very strong and very angry response to that. Tony described him as being irate. The president said to him something to the effect of, ‘I’m the f—ing president, take me up to the Capitol now.’ To which Bobby responded, ‘Sir, we have to go back to the West Wing.’ He then reached up front of the vehicle to grab at the steering wheel. Mr. Engel grabbed his arm, he said, ‘Sir, you need to take your hand off the steering wheel. We’re going back to the West Wing, we’re not going to the Capitol.’ Mr. Trump then used his free hand to lunge towards Bobby Engel.”

"Any reasonable person would conclude this story was dubious. The liberal media, however, not so much. CNN gleefully described it as a bombshell(*), yet, like so many other Trump bombshells, it appears this incident didn’t happen at all, and is yet another hoax to add to the pile of bogus anti-Trump stories."
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(from CNN's site)

* " 'This is a bombshell. It's stunning. It's shocking. The story about the "Beast".* I don't have the words. It's just stunning' said one Trump advisor (i.e. Cassidy Hutchinson) *referring to the presidential limousine.

"This paints a picture of Trump completely unhinged and completely losing all control"...

"paints a 'picture' ", of course, which the rabidly anti-Trump media want an unsuspecting audience to buy-- and it's factually false. But Trump's detractors are only too happy to uncritically accept it at face value, buy into it without question or doubt.

That describes the political-idiot's shit-hole in which our nation is stuck.

https://www.mediaite.com/print/unfit-to-be-anywhere-near-power-washington-examin...
‘Unfit to Be Anywhere Near Power’: Washington Examiner Pronounces Trump Politically Dead After ‘Damning’ Testimony

The conservative-leaning outlet published an op-ed in the aftermath of Hutchinson’s many explosive revelations while speaking before the January 6 Committee. While delving into Hutchinson’s political background, the op-ed deemed her a “tremendously credible” witness who “did not overstate things, did not seem to be seeking attention, and was very precise about how and why she knew what she related and about which testimony was firsthand and which was secondhand but able to be corroborated.”

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Now, Trump's infantile enablers and defenders have to show some guts because the reality train is finally leaving the station!

#88 of what I saw I would say Ms. Hutchinson's testimony was very credible. That throughout her appearance at the hearing she put names to other people/witnesses who may already have or could corroborate her testimony made it even more compelling. You might not like it but it's kind of expected that you would shill for Trump no matter what anyway.....so you do you.

>88 proximity1:

The Secret Service agents concerned are themselves reported to have directly refuted these claims---or didn't you read that part?

Your idea of "credibility" is truly wacky. In a court, her testimony would be excluded under the hearsay rule. The ignorance of the participants in these fora no longer surprises me.

91 Were you in such a rush to respond that you ended by responding to yourself?

On the question of hearsay until we actually hear from the secret service agents themselves who can like Hutchinson testify under oath to the committee in front of a national audience those reported refutations they’ve made actually are hearsay.

Regardless whether they turn out or not they are only a small but hardly crucial part of yesterday’s testimony and FWIW if all you can do is take down one point out of a great many points that Hutchinson made that’s not much of a defense.

It’s funny until yesterday I thought that Trump after goading the crowd into attacking the Capitol had wimped out on joining them. Instead it seems he actually did want to join them and to fire up the violence that took place even more.

I'm just curious about one thing. The Trump club responded to Hutchinson's testimony immediately, claiming to have debunked it. However, the speed with which they responded clearly indicates that they were prepared for this story. If Hutchinson's story is a lie, as Trump's liars claim, then how did they know it was coming so as to prepare their response?

>93 kiparsky:

It's called omniscience and it's often associated with omnipotence, as we're seeing in the primarying (sp?) of any Representatives who waver from the one TRUe Manifest Path.

Hoax? Like Hell / Cipollone Subpoenaed by J6 Committee

Literally word for word factual? Well, as any cop or trial lawyer knows, under repeated questioning, a witness' testimony stays the same in general but varies in detail.

Cops and lawyers will also tell you that anyone whose story stays identical from repetition to repetition is a liar who doesn't understand the difference between truth-telling variation and deceptive repetition. So, the liar trips up because of a misunderstanding of the word "consistent."

While we're on the subject of consistency, let's be sure to acknowledge that SS agents Tony Ornato and Bobby Engel are the president's detail. Ornato was also working in Trump's administration in the position of chief of staff for operations (security, trips, rallies, etc.) since the end of 2019. Let's also acknowledge that Carol Leonnig, the author of an expose on the SS during the Trump years, revealed that the pair “were very, very close to President Trump."

“And some people accused them of at times being enablers and ‘yes men’ of the president—particularly Tony Ornato—and very much people who wanted to do what he wanted and see him pleased,” Leonnig said. “And that was frustrating to agents who were more focused on, say, security, or being independent, or good planning. So, both of these individuals lose a little credibility because of how closely they have been seen as aligned to Donald Trump.

“There was a very large contingent of Donald Trump’s detail who were personally cheering for Joe Biden to fail. And some of them even took to their personal media accounts to cheer on the insurrection and the individuals riding up to the Capitol as patriots. That is problematic,” Leonnig said.

Both agents claim they will testify before the committee under oath as to what happened in the presidential SUV.

But let's remember that Ornato and Hutchinson were not alone in the room when Ornato told his story about the presidential assault. Pat Cipollone was there, too. And the J6 Committee just subpoenaed Mr. Cipollone to testify before it. No one thinks he won't do so. Not the man who told WH Chief of Staff, Mark Meadows to stop the rioters or "blood will be on your f**king hands," only to realize that he was addressing a selectively deaf man.

Personally, I don't think he will contradict the essence of Hutchinson's testimony on this point, or any other points she observed and was told that day. Count on it, he'll be asked a lot more pertinent questions regarding Trump's role as the person responsible for much worse crimes than that brouhaha in the black SUV. In any case, that was merely a titillating side-show to the main event, which NO ONE who is credible denies is true, that Trump was angrily demanding to be transported to the Capitol so that he could personally partake in the seditious war going on there. What else would the person who incited the rabble and ordered the Secret Service to "take the MAGS away" so that more of his armed soldiers could force their way into the seat of the legislative branch while it was performing its Constitutional duty desire than to be present and gloat at the destruction, chaos, and fear they would provoke on his behalf?

Instead, he was transported to the West Wing where he spent the afternoon of Jan. 6th pouting in his usual infantile behavior, throwing food at the wall like a toddler in a high chair and not listening to any of the few adults in the room. Behavior only Trumpty-Dumbpties admire.

Re claim that Trump grabbed steering wheel, clavicle of Secret Service officer--Lordy, there IS a tape!

Ron Filipkowski 🇺🇦 @RonFilipkowski | 5:36 PM · Jun 30, 2022:
Attorney, Marine, Triathlete, Historian. Fmr Fed Prosecutor & Repub; now Defense Att & Democrat. Track and Report on the Right-Wing. Seen on BBC, CNN, MSNBC.

Seems like he was sitting there a long time with a lot of moving around before driving off.
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Jack Bryan @jackabryan | 4:43 PM · Jun 30, 2022:
Director/Producer/co-writer on @actmeasuresdoc Writer/co-producer Qanon: The Search for Q vice Co-CEO Bunker Crew Media @KremlinFile producer

made a zoomed video. At the very least Trump is moving his hand over the driver's shoulder. Not sure why else he would be doing that.
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Mark Meadows, Witness Tamperer

According to numerous sources, Cassidy Hutchinson was the witness Rep. Cheney refused to name at the close of the 6th J6 Committee hearing. Hutchinson received two messages that she felt were intended to influence or intimidate her.

. . .on the eve of her earlier March 7 deposition, an intermediary for former White House chief of staff Mark Meadows contacted her to say that her former boss valued her loyalty.

Today we learned who "A person" is that was redacted from the slide referred to by Cheney which showed this message.

“(A person) let me know you have your deposition tomorrow.

“He wants me to let you know that he’s thinking about you. He knows you’re loyal, and you’re going to do the right thing when you go in for your deposition.” That person is Mark Meadows.

A Meadows spokesperson has denied it. But Meadows' lawyer did not respond to Politico's request for comment. Nor did the J6 Committee. Guess Politico hit a nerve.

Meadows refused to testify to the Committee and has been found in contempt. His case has been referred to the DOJ for charges. You'd think a guy being investigated by the DOJ on one charge already would have enough trouble on his plate to last a lifetime. Now he's likely to face a witness tampering criminal investigation but he won't be able to dodge any DOJ subpoena in the hopes of citing executive privilege. He put his foot wrong in the Biden Administration this time.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/jan-6-member-ex-trump-wh-counsel-pat-cipollone-did...
Jan. 6 Member: Ex-Trump WH Counsel Pat Cipollone ‘Did Not Contradict’ Bombshell Witnesses – In 8 HOURS of Testimony on Friday

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/cassidy-hutchinson-was-key-part-of-white-house...
Cassidy Hutchinson Was Key Part of White House Team Who Rallied Support Among House GOP During Trump’s First Impeachment

Jan. 6 committee notifies DOJ that Trump tried tampering with one of its witnesses, Cheney says
Brian Schwartz | Jul 12 2022

The House select committee investigating the attack on the Capitol on Jan. 6 revealed that they told the Department of Justice that former President Donald Trump contacted one of its witnesses who hasn’t publicly testified yet.

“After our last hearing. President Trump tried to call a witness in our investigation. A witness you have not yet seen in these hearings,” Rep. Liz Cheney, the vice chair of the committee, said on Tuesday.

“That person declined to answer or respond to President Trump’s call and instead alerted their lawyer to the call. Their lawyer alerted us. And this committee has supplied that information to the Department of Justice,” she added...

https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/12/jan-6-committee-notifies-doj-that-trump-tried-ta...

Julie Tsirkin @JulieNBCNews | 4:02 PM · Jul 12, 2022:
Stephen Ayres, the January 6 defendant who stormed the Capitol, just came up to each officer in attendance.

“I’m really sorry,” Ayres told Harry Dunn, hugging him.
Photo ( https://www.cnbc.com/2022/07/12/jan-6-committee-notifies-doj-that-trump-tried-ta... )
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Brad Parscale texts momentary regret for helping Trump win:
https://twitter.com/ProjectLincoln/status/1546943130380926977/photo/1

The Headline of the 7th Hearing of the J6 Committee

Trump's ABCs of Treason: "Lies, Deceit, and Snake Oil"

The House Select Committee has taken the public chronologically through the evolution of Trump's attempt to illegally hold onto power following his defeat in the 2020 election.

Plan A Subvert the election through an onslaught of fake and false claims put forth in a multitude of lawsuits across the country's courts.
Plan B Subvert the election by pressuring the vice president to refuse to certify the election results on January 6.
Plan C Subvert the election and overthrow the legal government by inciting a "locked and loaded" mob to violently attack the US Capitol and wreak mayhem, hang the vice-president, and assassinate any Democrats in its way, thus starting a civil war.

This is how the conspiracy behind Plan C unfolded.

The Rule of Trump vs. the Rule of Law was a blood match that rang in on the night of December 18, 2020 in an unscheduled "casual" meeting that took place in many rooms of the WH in an atmosphere of anger, profanity, name-calling, and sheer downright CRAZY when the representatives of Law said, "No!" and the representatives of My Way By Any Means locked in verbal battle. The match between normal and nuts broke off late that night when Trump told his professional advisors that the match team of kooks, Giuliani and Sidney "Kraken" Powell told him what he wanted to hear -- conspiracy theories and myths. With that, the perpetrator of chaos, division, and sedition took up his phone after one in the morning and issued the summons to his "Brown Shirt" militias and extremist racist followers for his last greatest rally on January 6th, texting, "Be there. It will be wild."

Their response was immediate and violent. It was clear to his people that Trump had rescinded his old Twitter command, "stand back and stand by," and issued a call to arms. Internet and media planning rapidly coalesced around getting to D.C. with offensive weapons, murderous intentions, and a commitment to overthrow the legal election in favor of appointing their Fuhrer to a second term. Plotting frothed on Twitter, right wing radio, and podcasts. Proud Boys, Oath Keepers, 3 Percent-ers, and angry organizers united under the coordination and prodding of two Trump lieutenants, Roger Stone and Mike Flynn, pardoned felons. This cabal of malcontents communicated by means of online posts and comments, secret web sites and chat rooms, and even public broadcasts that burned with fury against the country's democracy and how they would avenge their man's defeat.

Delusional Trump loyalists who believe they themselves are "We the People" alone, while denying the American values of majority rule and Constitutional processes, flouted their extremist desires and the lust for power evidenced by their god -- Donald Trump. In one published piece of evidence, the goal of the extremists was to overthrow the United States government in a "red wedding," a term that means mass slaughter. Multiple witness testimony makes clear that what happened January 6th was no grassroots spontaneous exhibition of misbegotten outrage. It showed beyond doubt that it was a planned armed insurrection designed to spark a civil war once it succeeded in interfering with the formal process of certifying President-elect Biden and assassinating their political enemies like "weak" Republicans and every Democrat in the Capitol.

We are lucky that the patriotic values of the Rule of Law, Free and Fair Elections, and Constitutional Democratic Majority Rule survived a corrupt tin-horn con man's violence-loving ambition to be king that drove him to formulate the conspiracy designed to destroy all three of those values -- personally.

We may not be so lucky when Trump, his crime organization that was the Republican Party, and his brain-washed worshipers try to have their way again. We learned today from Rep. Cheney, that after the end of the previous hearing, Trump himself tried to tamper with a witness via a personal phone call. There is no limit to the perfidy and criminality of Donald Trump. That's why there must be indictment and prosecution of the man for all the crimes he committed while wearing and hiding behind the cloak of the presidency.

“The truth unquestionably is, that the only path to a subversion of the republican system of the Country is, by flattering the prejudices of the people, and exciting their jealousies and apprehensions, to throw affairs into confusion, and bring on civil commotion.”
― Alexander Hamilton

https://www.mediaite.com/uncategorized/cnn-drops-bomb-dc-cop-who-was-in-motorcad...
CNN Drops Bomb: DC Cop Who Was in Motorcade ‘Corroborated’ Trump SUV Freakout to Jan. 6 Committee

The officer with the Metropolitan Police Department was in the motorcade with the Secret Service for Trump on January 6 and recounted what was seen to committee investigators, according to the source.

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/just-8-out-of-50-republican-senators-say-they-...
Just 8 Out of 50 Republican Senators Say They Are Watching Explosive Jan. 6 Hearings

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I assume the money guys are watching and listening very closely, however!!!

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/liz-cheney-jan-6-fox-news-13...

A Sunday Miracle: Fox News Audience Exposed to Jan. 6 Truth During Liz Cheney Interview

“Look, it’s not just me that is saying that Donald Trump is unfit for office. It’s other entities owned by Rupert Murdoch,” Cheney said.

>105 Molly3028:

Just 8 out of 50 Senators *say* they are watching...

Pretty sure the rest are just refusing to admit to it. Lol

https://www.mediaite.com/news/trump-defense-secretary-says-he-never-received-dir...
Trump Defense Secretary Says He Never Received ‘Direction or Order’ to Deploy National Guard on Jan. 6

This story isn’t about the committee, but journalists obtaining incriminating emails about the fake elector scheme.

Maggie Haberman at NYT, but it’s paywalled, so

https://www.thedailybeast.com/lawyer-jack-wilenchik-acknowledged-electors-were-f...

How does she do it?

That doesn't make any sense.

>110 Kuiperdolin:
Well argued. Could use some exposition.

Jan. 6 texts missing for Trump Homeland Security’s Wolf and Cuccinelli
DHS watchdog was alerted in February to unavailable records of top officials, but did nothing to alert or investigate
Carol D. Leonnig and Maria Sacchetti | July 28, 2022

...Text messages for former President Donald Trump’s acting Homeland Security Secretary Chad Wolf and acting deputy secretary Ken Cuccinelli are missing for a key period leading up to the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol...

In the weeks before the attack on the Capitol, Trump had been pressuring both men to help him claim the 2020 election results were rigged and even to seize voting machines in key swing states to try to “re-run” the election.

...Wolf and Cuccinelli had remained at DHS as Trump openly challenged the 2020 election results, even though the agency led efforts to help state and local governments safeguard the integrity of the election results.

Starting in late December, numerous DHS intelligence units across the country were warning of extremely worrisome chatter in white nationalist and pro-Trump social media platforms that were promoting coming armed to Trump’s Jan. 6 rally and using violence to block Biden from becoming president...

Wolf ... resigned five days after the attack on the Capitol...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2022/07/28/homeland-security-texts-jan6/
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ETA
Chris Krebs @C_C_Krebs | 11:33 PM · Jul 28, 2022:
Partner, @KrebsStamos. @AspenDigital Fellow. @SentinelOne Advisory Board. Former Director @CISAgov. Fired by tweet.

This is a DHS tech issue not an individual official issue. DHS issues iPhones but can’t centrally manage iMessage bc they’re encrypted on the device & Apple makes it hard to access messages. Messaging should be disabled, which is what the White House does.

...Former Justice Department staffer Ken Klukowski, who worked with Jeffrey Clark at the agency, is cooperating in the DOJ's January 6 criminal investigation, after investigators searched and copied his electronic records several weeks ago...

Klukowski's proximity to Clark suggests investigators are seeking more information about the former Justice Department lawyer. Trump had sought to install Clark as attorney general in the days before the January 6 attack on the US Capitol as top officials refused to go along with his vote fraud claims....

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/28/politics/klukowski-justice/index.html

January 6 committee intends to share 20 transcripts with the Justice Department
Annie Grayer CNN | July 29, 2022

...Rep. Bennie Thompson, a Mississippi Democrat who chairs the panel, previously said the department was interested in individuals connected to the plan to put forward "fake electors" for former President Donald Trump...

...the panel has formalized a process for sharing information with the Justice Department, but the department (must give) the committee a list of names it wanted specific transcripts for...

https://www.cnn.com/2022/07/28/politics/janaury-6-committee-justice-department-s...

But "her e-mails"? His laptop"?

Seth Abramson @SethAbramson | 5:53 PM · Aug 2, 2022:
NYT bestselling author. Attorney. Journalist. Trump biographer. Words CNN BBC CBS CBC @HBO @WashingtonPost , etc.
https://twitter.com/SethAbramson/status/1554586166342701061

MAJOR BREAKING NEWS: Trump’s Pentagon Deliberately Destroyed All Its Texts, Decimating Critical Evidence and National Security-Related Material in What Continues to Look Like—at DHS, the Secret Service, and now DoD—the Biggest Cover-up in American History

First on CNN: Jan. 6 text messages wiped from phones of key Trump Pentagon officials
Tierney Sneed and Zachary Cohen, CNN | August 2, 2022
https://www.cnn.com/2022/08/02/politics/defense-department-missing-january-6-tex...

PS/ We need no longer question why the Republican Party got behind the coverup of an armed insurrection. It’s become evident that the top levels of the GOP—within the legislative branch, the executive branch, and possibly even the judicial branch—had some complicity in January 6.

PS2/ Donald Trump inexplicably appointed four men to roles in (or connected to) the Pentagon after he lost the election—Kash Patel, Ezra Cohen-Watnick, Corey Lewandowsi, and David Bossie—at least two of whom, and likely all four, were active insurrectionists. This is scary stuff.

PS3/ One of the two reports I’ve been working on at PROOF is about how Trump *didn’t* give up on the idea of the Pentagon seizing voting machines after his December 18, 2020 meeting with Flynn’s “Team Kraken.” Major media has erroneously reported that he gave up on the idea then.

PS4/ If you erroneously believe Trump *didn’t* keep the door open to using the U.S. military to take over our democracy, you’ll see nothing suspicious in all these Pentagon texts being deliberately destroyed.

Unfortunately, the January 6 timeline points in a different direction.

PS5/ Bad reporting has consequences. Media has so often told Americans that Trump gave up on using the Pentagon for his coup on December 18—with him supposedly deciding to focus solely on January 6, instead—that this breaking Pentagon news will not horrify Americans as it should.

PS6/ So now we have missing Secret Service texts that could establish contacts between Donald Trump and the domestic terrorists of Stop the Steal, missing DHS texts that would reveal secret lobbying by Trump’s “legal team,” and possibly missing Pentagon texts about *martial law*.

PS7/ It’s in this context that America seriously considers putting the GOP in charge of the House of Representatives—though voters know this would lead to the end of any investigation of January 6. A GOP House in January 2023 would constitute *total capitulation* to insurrection.

PS8/ The *practical* question, now: do Americans have a moral right to presume the worst about Trump entities that deliberately destroyed federal evidence regarding January 6? Has the USSS, DOD or DHS left us with any choice but to assume the deleted texts would be incriminating?

PS9/ When it was *just* the Secret Service that selectively deleted critical federal evidence, we could look and say, “Maybe that was all Tony Ornato’s doing?” When we learned that the same thing happened at DHS, at first we were told it was an innocent mistake, until suddenly...

PS10/ ...we learned the DHS IG has a history of covering for Trump, hid evidence from Congress, and oversaw others at DHS who hid evidence from Congress. Is America required to be Charlie Brown a *third* time and *not* say, “Enough is enough, this is *clearly* a massive coverup”?

PS11/ Trump adviser Ginni Thomas spent all 2019 and most of 2020 urging Trump to purge every part of the government of anyone who wasn’t a Trump loyalist. Steve Bannon says his plan for a 2025 Trump return to the White House would start with *just such a purge*. This is relevant.

PS12/ America watched in 2019 and 2020 as Trump replaced Inspectors General across the federal executive branch. We watched as he made inexplicable appointments to key posts *after* his landslide November 2020 election loss. He wanted all of government to be under tight control.

PS13/ And now we find that none of the entities Trump spent years tampering with functioned in the way they were supposed to after January 6 happened and it was *blindingly obvious to every federal official in the executive branch* that *all text messages needed to be preserved*.

PS14/ We’re past the point at which we can believe that the Trump appointees who destroyed critical evidence in the largest federal criminal investigation in American history did so for innocent reasons. In fact, many of them were put in their positions to do exactly as they did.

PS15/ I’ve been writing on Kash Patel for years—and wrote within hours of the clearing of the Capitol in January 2021 that Congress needed to investigate what Patel was doing at the Pentagon in the leadup to that day. I continue to believe the FBI should be *way* up in his grill.

PS16/ As described in exhaustive—and *exhaustively sourced*—detail in the bestseller Proof of Corruption (Macmillan, 2020), Patel was on the “BLT Prime” team that sought to steal the 2020 election for Trump by manufacturing dirt on Biden with the aid of Kremlin allies in Ukraine.

PS17/ On the very day that Donald Trump sent his agent Kash Patel to the highest levels of the Pentagon, I knew as a Trump biographer that it meant that Trump felt the Pentagon might have a role to play in ensuring he remained in power. Now Patel’s phone has been illegally wiped.

PS18/ I continue to fear we may be in the last 36 months of the U.S. as we know it. Patel remains a top Trump adviser—and one of the most dangerous men in America. If the GOP takes the House in 90 days it may terminally cripple efforts to stop the insurrection Patel is a part of.

PS19/ We did have some indication that this was coming. As those who follow this feed and major media know, the Pentagon lied about the role of Michael Flynn’s brother Charles in key decisionmaking moments on January 6, 2021. Those stunning lies were never explained—nor punished.

PS20/ And a major PROOF report (🔐) long ago conclusively established that Trump Secretary of Defense Chris Miller lied under oath to Congress about January 6. He was recently caught lying again—on FNC—about whether Trump asked for National Guard troops.
https://sethabramson.substack.com/p/breaking-news-former-secretary-of

PS21/ When you put together the lies about Flynn, the lies by Sec. Miller, the four suspicious post-election appointments by Trump, Patel’s past as a Trump election-theft co-conspirator, the Team Kraken plan for the Pentagon that Trump never abandoned and now these wiped texts...

PS22/ The only conclusion a federal investigator could draw is that the Pentagon was a far more significant component of the January 6 coup plot than anyone—including the members of the House January 6 Committee—had previously understood. And that should *terrify* every American.

PS23/ I long ago lost track of how many *exponents* beyond Watergate we are, but suffice to say that if you’re alive right now and have the capacity to read this thread you will likely never see a scandal in America this big for the rest of your life—or even anything close to it.

https://www.mediaite.com/news/just-in-mike-pence-volunteers-to-consider-testifyi...
JUST IN: Mike Pence Volunteers to ‘Consider’ Testifying for Jan. 6 Committee

Laurence Tribe(Harvard Law) tribelaw | 2:02 PM · Sep 6, 2022:
This is the first time since 1869. But it won't be the last. EVERYONE who engaged in storming the Capitol on 1/6/21 OR who gave "aid or comfort" to that "insurrection or rebellion" after taking an oath "to support the Constitution of the United States" is permanently disqualified

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Mueller, She Wrote @MuellerSheWrote · 2h
BREAKING: for the first time since 1869, a judge has removed an insurrectionist from office under section 3 of the 14th amendment. Otero County Commissioner Couy Griffin is ordered to step down effective immediately. https://citizensforethics.org/news/press-releases/judge-removes-couy-griffin-fro...

January 6th Committee @January6thCmte | 5:05 PM · Sep 15, 2022:

The Select Committee has obtained a recording of communications over a walkie-talkie app among Oath Keepers who were inside the Capitol and others who were sharing intelligence from elsewhere.

Listen to how they reacted to President Trump’s 2:38 tweet in real-time.
1:31 ( https://twitter.com/January6thCmte/status/1570519072319709184 )

60 Minutes @60Minutes | 6:43 PM · Sep 23, 2022:

The White House switchboard connected a call to a rioter while the Capitol was under siege on January 6, 2021, according to former January 6 committee staffer Denver Riggleman.

“I only know one end of that call,” Riggleman said.
https://cbsn.ws/3BDxkop

Riggleman: White House switchboard called Capitol rioter on January 6
Watch 60 Minutes Sundays on CBS, or anytime on @paramountplus and https://cbsn.ws/34D1mLY

1:15 ( https://twitter.com/60Minutes/status/1573442914281312273 )

https://www.mediaite.com/politics/ginni-thomas-tells-jan-6-committee-she-still-b...
Ginni Thomas Tells Jan. 6 Committee She Still Believes the 2020 Election Was Stolen from Trump

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Trump planted this seed two months BEFORE the 2020 election took place. It apparently grew roots that remain in the grey matter of this SCOTUS wife to this day. And she just planted a seed that is going to sprout roots in many people's minds from now well into next year. Election deniers just got reinforcement from someone at the very top of the DC tribal food chain.

The GT-type person has always made anyone associated with Madison Avenue ad agencies very happy campers.

Let's just say it.

tRUMP violated his oath of office in the ultimate way - he led an insurrection in an attempt to overthrow our form of government and then make himself dictator for life of the U.S.

In short, pure and simple, straight up, tRUMP is a traitor. Let's use that word. That is what he is. And not just because I say so. Just go to the multitudinous video tapes.

Mehdi Hasan @mehdirhasan | 3:05 PM · Oct 13, 2022:
Host, @mehdihasanshow on @MSNBC and NBC's @peacockTV

This Pelosi footage is astonishing. Astonishing.

Videos show Pelosi's reaction during the January 6 Capitol riot (7:07)
Oct. 13, 2022

The January 6 committee played video of House Speaker Pelosi speaking on the phone with vice president Mike Pence as she and other members of Congress hid in the Capitol from pro-Trump insurrectionists. The video was shot by Pelosi's daughter, Alexandra Pelosi, a source familiar tells NBC News.

https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc/watch/videos-show-pelosi-s-reaction-during-the-janua...

Ryan Barber @cryanbarber | 3:34 PM · Oct 13, 2022:
Justice correspondent at @thisisinsider | formerly @thenlj | rbarber @ http://insider.com

Now: Just as the House January 6 committee adjourns, former Pence aide Marc Short strolls out of the grand jury room at the federal courthouse blocks from the Capitol.

Short, out.
0:05 ( https://twitter.com/cryanbarber/status/1580644182196043777 )

Aaaaaaand now federal prosecutor Thomas Windom
Earlier: https://businessinsider.com/top-public-corruption-prosecutor-joining-justice-dep...
0:09 ( https://twitter.com/cryanbarber/status/1580644679984754688 )

Short and Windom declined to answer shouted questions.

The US President needs invite (or subpoena) to visit the Capitol, like for State of the Union address. (Similarly Queen/King must be invited to House of Commons.)
(Hope Nancy wearing rings when she "punches him out".)

Eric Feigl-Ding @DrEricDing | 8:45 PM · Oct 13, 2022:

Holy shit—“I hope he comes, I’m going to punch him out ... I’m going to punch him out, I’m going to go to jail, and I’m going to be happy.” @SpeakerPelosi
(who would be the Prime Minister in any British commonwealth country)
Pelosi on Trump Poss. Marching to Capitol on 1/6: I'd Punch Him

0:23 ( https://twitter.com/DrEricDing/status/1580721423181524992 )
From The Recount

Jan. 6: Key takeaways from what may be the House committee's final hearing
Caitlin Dickson | October 13, 2022

New Secret Service records show warnings about violence prior to Jan. 6
Never-before-seen footage of congressional leaders springing into action on Jan. 6
Trump privately admitted that Biden won the election
The committee voted to subpoena Trump

https://www.yahoo.com/news/jan-6-key-takeaways-from-what-may-be-the-house-commit...

Tristan Snell (Main Street Law) @TristanSnell | 9:53 PM · Oct 13, 2022

We still don’t know:
- Who planted the pipe bombs?
- Who disabled Pence’s key card?
- Who removed the panic buttons?
- Who shared the location of the non-reinforced windows?

Something I have not seen is a sensible, informed exploration by a respectable analyst of the reasons why — apart from vainglory — the man was so desperate and determined to remain president.

Mike Sington (NBC) @MikeSington | 12:11 PM · Oct 14, 2022
“Don’t let anybody know where you are!” Never before seen video:
Nancy expresses concern to Mike Pence about his safety,
all while Trump was stoking violence against Pence.
1:06 ( https://twitter.com/MikeSington/status/1580954556497657858 )

>127 librorumamans: Fiona Hill is a British-American intelligence analyst who served under Presidents George W. Bush and Barack Obama. Then she was President Trump's Senior Director for Europe and Russia of the National Security Council (April 2017 into July 2019). Have you seen what she said about his motivations?

"He saw Putin as the kind of epitome of the badass populist, frankly, you know, the kind of person that he wanted to be: super-rich, super powerful, no checks and balances, and essentially being able to stay in power forever."

Thanks; I'll check her out. But that's more or less what I meant by vainglory. That's it — nothing more than ego??

>130 librorumamans: Very likely, yes.

This regularly perplexes me, too. Such a doofus is what the Electoral College voted into the POTUS position? There had to have be an intelligence scheme-- a conspiracy against the US-- for his election to have happened, right? It wasn't as if many of us weren't yelling in 2016 about the possibility of what happened on January 6; the danger was apparent from the beginning. But the reason the country had to suffer through it, anyway? There must have been reasons... right?!

Probably not. The interviews and the most credible (as in most verifiable) books released in the past several years build up an image of a simple-minded person who wants to be like his idols, who are powerful bullies.

Example: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/12/fiona-hill-trump-putin-populism-...

Enough of the country has shared his desires (if none of his capacity to act on those desires themselves) and a willingness to have someone else act out their fantasies to put him in political power. Once there, Trump simply wanted to stay there.

It's not as if he actually had to do the work of the position to gain accolades for being in it. Obviously, he did not. He treated the presidency as if it was a bizzare spinoff of The Apprentice.

Although I used to think Vladimir Putin had a big plan that explained much of Trump's presidency, including his role in the insurrection attempt, this year's war against Ukraine has me questioning exactly how overrated has Putin's brainpower been this entire time.

People don't need to be clever to be very dangerous. Simple greed is enough.

>131 aspirit: I realized two things after posting:(1) Greed shouldn't be described as simple when individual vanity and large-scale politics are included when it, and (2) I think of "vanity" as it's typically used to be a form of greed, or excessive selfishness. Either way, in regards to Trump, I don't think there's much more than a commitment to himself above all others 100% of the time. He's as complex as any person is, but his motivations don't appear to be. To him, a country really could look no different than a company, and he doesn't seem to have ever learned neither how companies affect the lives of the people who aren't in control of them nor why he should care.

"DOJ says it needs more money for the Jan. 6 probe. The next spending bill may be its last chance." | NBC News

https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/justice-department/doj-says-needs-money-jan-6-p...

The Justice Department has called Jan. 6 “the most wide-ranging investigation” in its history, with more than 870 arrests so far. For 21 months, the investigation, led by the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the District of Columbia, has largely been propped up with help from 93 federal prosecutors' offices from across the country who are volunteering personnel.

But the work is far from over and the department needs more resources to move full-speed ahead, more than a dozen sources close to the investigation told NBC News in July.{...}

The Justice Department has told Congress that more than $34 million in funding is "critically needed" to fund the investigation.

>11 margd:, contd.

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January 6th Committee @January6thCmte | 6:50 PM · Nov 14, 2022:

Former President Trump has refused to comply with the Select Committee’s subpoena requiring him to appear for a deposition.

His attorneys have made no attempt to negotiate an appearance, and his lawsuit parades out many of the same arguments that courts have rejected repeatedly.

Donald Trump orchestrated a scheme to overturn a presidential election and block the transfer of power. He is obligated to provide answers to the American people.

The committee will evaluate next steps in the litigation and regarding the former President’s noncompliance.

Will anything come of the Jan. 6 hearings?
Christina Pazzanese | November 21, 2022

...Even with the 117th Congress set to end Jan. 3, the panel continues to interview top Trump aides this week, including former adviser Kellyanne Conway and Anthony Ornato, the former Secret Service agent who oversaw the president’s S.U.V. travel on Jan. 6. The committee will finish its work and release a lengthy report of its investigation by year’s end. One of the most important voices on the committee has been that of Democratic Rep. Jamie Raskin ’83, J.D. ’87 of Maryland, who was recently named chair of a Jan. 6 subcommittee in charge of wrapping up outstanding issues and recommending possible criminal and civil charges, while the full panel finalizes the report. A former constitutional law professor who coasted to re-election earlier this month, Raskin recently spoke to the Gazette about what the American public can expect in the coming weeks...

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/11/will-anything-come-of-jan-6-heari...

Not. It's all a rigged witch hunt, with no serious aim or purpose except subverting America and its values.

It Was a Conspiracy. And It Was Sedition.
Guilty verdicts in the DOJ's biggest case. So far.
Charlie Sykes | 29 Nov 2022

On Tuesday afternoon, a federal jury convicted leaders of the Oath Keepers — including Stewart Rhodes — of charges of seditious conspiracy for their role in the January 6 attack on the Capitol....

..the government now has a stiff wind at its back, and the walls of Mar-a-Lago are likely smeared again with ketchup.

Politically, the verdict...resets the frame for the January 6 Committee by underlining the gravity of the attack. It was not, after all, “a normal tourist visit” or a largely peaceful protest of Constitution-loving patriots. It was a seditious assault on the very foundations of the Republic.

And the chief conspiracist is still at large...

https://morningshots.thebulwark.com/p/it-was-a-conspiracy-and-it-was-sedition

Victor Shi (Biden Delegate) @Victorshi2020 | 4:34 PM · Dec 15, 2022:

WOW. @Davidcicilline just introduced a bill that would bar Donald Trump from becoming president again via section 3 of the 14th Amendment.* This is an such an important piece of legislation. Trump is a threat to democracy & he can’t become president again. Pure & simple.

Here’s the full text of the bill: https://cicilline.house.gov/sites/evo-subsites/cicilline.house.gov/files/evo-med...

This should be on the top of what Democrats want to accomplish in this lame-duck session.

* 14th amendment section 3 ( https://twitter.com/RepMaloney/status/1452731818986328068/photo/1 )
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Harry Litman (LA Times) @harrylitman | 5:11 PM · Dec 16, 2022:
Not to get overexcited or anything, but seems to me that a congressional vote to bar Trump from future office for insurrection under 14th Am §3 would be the biggest thing Congress has done in a generation. tribelaw ?

Laurence Tribe (Harvard Law) tribelaw | 1:32 AM · Dec 17, 2022:
A vote by Congress to bar Trump from future office for insurrection under 14th Am §3 would indeed be huge, but how about the Art. I §9 Bill of Attainder objection to any such “trial by legislature” outside the Constitution’s explicit Art. II impeachment process? @harrylitman?

The last January 6th Select Committee meeting for the year is scheduled for 1:00 PM EST today.

https://january6th.house.gov/news/watch-live

"Jan. 6 committee approves criminal referrals against Trump for his role in trying to overturn the 2020 election" by Scott Wong and Alex Seitz-Wald | NBC News

The House Jan. 6 committee voted Monday to recommend that the Justice Department pursue a batch of criminal charges against former President Donald Trump for his role in an effort to overturn the 2020 election and the fomenting of a deadly mob at the Capitol.

Trump was the first president in American history to be impeached twice. Now, he is also the first president to be formally referred by Congress for potential prosecution.

The committee's final meeting was the culmination of a sweeping 17-month congressional investigation that included more than 100 subpoenas, interviews with more than 1,200 witnesses and the collection of hundreds of thousands of documents.

Four Congressmen were also referred to the House Ethics Committee for defying subpoenas from the committee earlier this year: House Minority Leader "and potential incoming Speaker" Kevin McCarthy of California; Jim Jordan of Ohio, "who is expected to be the next chairman of the House Judiciary Committee"; Andy Biggs of Arizona; and Scott Perry of Pennsylvania. All four are Republicans.

The full news article (including video) is at https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/congress/jan-6-committee-prepares-release-crimi....

Key points from the year-end meeting include:

1. (Then President) Trump pushed false allegations of election fraud.

2. Trump refused to accept the "lawful" result of the 2020 election even after losing dozens of lawsuits and plotted to overturn the results.

3. Trump knew his actions "would be illegal" and pressured Pence to "refuse to count electoral votes."

4. Trump urged DOJ officials to make "purposely false statements" regarding the 2020 election to overturn its results.

5. Trump "unlawfully" pressured state officials and legislatures to overturn the election.

6. Trump "oversaw an effort to obtain and transmit false electoral certificates to Congress and the National Archives."

7. Trump "pressured Members of Congress to object to valid slates of electors from several States."

8. Trump "purposely verified false information filed in Federal court."

9. Trump "summoned" his supporters to Washington based on "false allegations."

10. Trump targeted Pence on Twitter while the Capitol attack "was underway."

11. Trump refused to call off his "violent supporters."

12. Each of these actions by Trump "was taken in support of a multi-part conspiracy to overturn the lawful results of the 2020 Presidential election."

13. Authorities had briefed the executive branch on the "potential for violence at the U.S. Capitol."

14. Members of the antifa movement were "not involved to any material extent" in the Jan. 6 attack.

15. Authorities had no intelligence that Trump and his allies would try to "overturn the certified election results."

16. Capitol Police leadership "did not have sufficient assets" to handle an attack like Jan. 6.

17. Trump never ordered the deployment of the National Guard.

The criminal referrals to the DOJ:

• Obstruction of an Official Proceeding
• Conspiracy to Defraud the United States
• Conspiracy to Make a False Statement
• Conspiracy to Incite, Assist or Aid an Insurrection
• Other Conspiracy Statutes

The full release of the committee's final report is expected later this week.

Source (which provides more description, including video): "Jan. 6 committee condemns Trump as 'central cause' of insurrection in sweeping report" by Olivia Rubin, Katherine Faulders, and Will Steakin
| ABC News
https://abcnews.go.com/US/jan-6-committee-condemns-trump-central-cause-insurrect...

The Republicans who Rudy Giuliani tried to call on Jan. 6:

Jim Jordan,
Marsha Blackburn,
Tommy Tuberville,
Bill Hagerty,
Lindsey Graham,
Josh Hawley, and
Ted Cruz.

- Kyle Griffin (MSNBC) @kylegriffin1 | 11:40 PM · Dec 22, 2022

FINAL REPORT Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol (845 p)
December 00, 2022
117th Congress Second Session House Report 117-000
https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/23514928-report_finalreport_jan6selectco...

What the Jan. 6th Report Says About the Fake Electors Scheme
“Freaking Trump idiots want someone to fly original elector papers to the senate President.”
Philip Rotner | December 26, 2022

...If it can be proved that Trump intentionally participated in the scheme to try to pass off forged documents as official state documents, and then use the phony documents to overturn an election, it wouldn’t make any difference why he did so. The act of participating in the scheme, in and of itself, regardless of his purported reasons for doing so, would still run afoul of all kinds of state and federal criminal laws.

The path to prosecuting Trump for the fake elector scheme—either as a standalone crime or as a crucial element of a larger conspiracy to overturn the results of a presidential election—became much clearer last week with the publication of the final report of the House January 6th Committee.

Until the publication of the report, there were arguably two open questions: (1) How high in the levels of Trump world did the scheme go? And (2), could at least some of the perpetrators assert a credible defense that they understood it was just a contingency plan to have electors in place in the event that the courts or state legislatures determined that Trump, not Biden, was the winner in one or more of the five states?

The report answered both questions. (1) The scheme went all the way to the top, right up to Trump himself. And (2), while some of the lower-level participants in the scheme—most likely some of the state-level GOP operatives who actually signed the phony certificates—may have been duped into believing that that it was a contingency plan, the higher ups who created and executed the scheme knew better.

They knew it was an action plan...

https://www.thebulwark.com/what-the-jan-6th-report-says-about-the-fake-electors-...

Lisa Rubin @lawofruby | 12:02 PM · Jan 2, 2023:
@msnbc legal analyst; behind the scenes @maddow & @wagnertonight. Recovering litigator

Amidst the 1/6 committee's dump of transcripts and documents is a letter Cheney and Thompson sent on 12/30 to the White House. And it highlights the real danger for certain witnesses when control of the House is handed to the GOP tomorrow. 1/

https://january6th.house.gov/sites/democrats.january6th.house.gov/files/2022-12-...

The letter indicates multiple WH personnel were interviewed with the understanding that their identities would be kept confidential. But with the change in House control, Cheney and Thompson note they can't guarantee the witnesses' "safety, security, and reputations." 2/

Excerpted text ( https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1609959267125153796/photo/1 )

Therefore, Cheney and Thompson are returning those transcripts to the WH for filing with the National Archives--and a suggestion that the WH request "limitations on release" or other protections for the witnesses' security. FIN

Excerpted text ( https://twitter.com/lawofruby/status/1609960237737410560/photo/1 )

A few hundred potbellied, viking helmeted, herd following idiots does not make an insurrection at the most felony tresspassing, What,is criminal is holding people some in solitary confinement for over a year. The only injury suffered was the cowardly shooting of a 12-year veteran of the USAF. The cop who shot her hidden behind a wall was declared a hero, shooting an unarmed women to death....JMJ....

https://www.factcheck.org/2021/11/how-many-died-as-a-result-of-capitol-riot/

As for whether or not hundreds of people breaking into the US Capitol building after premeditatation with clear intentions of violence against government leaders to undermine the national elections process is an act of insurgency... JFC.

>148 aspirit: Oh, yes, I forgot the important adjective armed. That matters in the definition of insurrection.

The attackers brought knives, firearms, stun guns, pepper spray, baseball bats, and other objects that were used to strike. One person might have planted pipe bombs. (I don't know status of that that investigation.)

"Yes, Capitol Rioters Were Armed. Here Are The Weapons Prosecutors Say They Used" | NPR Investigations
https://www.npr.org/2021/03/19/977879589/yes-capitol-rioters-were-armed-here-are...

{Tucker} Carlson claimed that no one in the crowd on Jan. 6 was found with a firearm.

That’s inaccurate. Many of those involved in the attack were armed, and several had guns that police later seized.

"Fact-check: Were firearms, other weapons at Capitol on Jan. 6?" | Austin American-Statesman (with info from Politifact)
https://www.statesman.com/story/news/politics/politifact/2022/06/15/fact-check-w...

In addition, testimony by the Oath Keepers includes description of a "quick reaction force" ready outside of Washington, DC, "in case they needed weapons" that day.
https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-florida-virginia-conspiracy-government-...

Might add that the woman who was shot was the first person breaking through the last barrier between an angry mob and the congresspeople who were still in session. Also that people were yelling about the cop with the gun seconds before but she kept on coming anyway.

FWIW cops in the United States shoot black people for far less reason all the time.

>147 brone: The only injury suffered was the cowardly shooting of a 12-year veteran of the USAF. The cop who shot her hidden behind a wall was declared a hero, shooting an unarmed women to death

An interesting and particularly egregious example of how right wing sources are trying to rewrite history and change the narrative to one which suits their ideology. Anybody who was not aware of the reality might well be moved by this emotive statement.

An armed mob stormed the seat of government in an attempt to overthrow a democratic election result. Police officers were killed and injured during the assault (so by no stretch of the imagination can this woman be declared "the only injury suffered"). The mob was explicitly threatening to murder the vice president. A lone police officer was the last defence between the murderous mob and the unarmed elected legislators within the building. Warnings had been issued and ignored. As a last resort, he shot the first person who broke through the door. Sounds rather different when explained in that way, doesn't it?

>150 lriley: FWIW cops in the United States shoot black people for far less reason all the time

FWIW, that is worth nothing, IMHO. I don't think there's any real comparison between shooting people for the sort of dubious reasons that many black people are shot in the USA, and shooting the person in the vanguard of an armed mob attempting to murder the vice president.

Audulous Huxley predicted that falsification would be the decisive element of modern times, In the false reality with its false truth or no truth. The distinction between false and real seems to be abolished. It is quite obvious the concept of truth has become suspect. Modern history has sufficiently demonstrated how destructive majorities can be especially if you dont agree with a pro in a pro/con group. Nazism and Marxism sytems that stand against the truth in particular. We are all capable of the truth, using our reason it goes without saying truth requires VERIFICATION and Falsification. Truth points us to the values that make us great, we must relearn the truth and accept it as a standard to be practiced....JMJ....

5918 I see your implication but why imply it here no one would disagree with you in this group?....AMDG....

>147 brone: So, let's just check to see if you believe what you're saying.

Let's imagine that a few hundred armed and violent "antifas" take it into their head to storm the Capital and hang the vice president and any Republican legislators they can find. Let's suppose that they cause a number of injuries and deaths in the course of this, and let's just suppose for a minute that they are only prevented from achieving their goal of murdering the vice president by an inspired improvisation by a lone officer of the capital police.

Is this still "at the most felony trespassing" when it's someone you disagree with? Or is it all of a sudden a treasonous insurrection in that case?

"Killing embryos made of human cells is wrong because that's human life. People should be locked up for doing that."

"The wellbeing of born humans, from children through adults, doesn't matter as much as the preseveration of the unborn."

"Trying to kill Congresspeople for following democratic procedure is fine, actually. People shouldn't be locked up for that."

—A summary of stated beliefs from one side

>152 brone: In https://www.librarything.com/topic/338757#8022820 you claimed that the vaccines were untested. This is false; they went through the same 3 phases of tests any vaccines do.

In https://www.librarything.com/topic/345564#8009439 you claimed that "Appoaching 100,000,000 enough to repave every road in America". As I pointed, $100 million is not anywhere near enough to repave every road in America; at a million dollars a mile for two lane roads, that would get 100 miles of road. You never responded to me. Looking up the numbers now, $100 billion is closer to the number we will have given Ukraine after the latest bill, and that's in the ballpark of what would be needed to repave the 50,000 miles of interstate highways, though I don't think it would cover it, as much of that is wider than two lane or in isolated areas. It would not cover all four million miles of roads in the US by a long shot.

If you want to show off the virtue of truth, then check what you're saying and respond to people, admit your errors and wrestle with their perspectives and sources. Truth is hard, and takes work by everyone. Or you can act like those systems you attack, and claim that only you have the truth and everyone else is just spreading propaganda.

>152 brone: truth requires VERIFICATION and Falsification

No disagreement with you there. So following on from the questions in >156 prosfilaes:, why do you claim in >147 brone::

- that the death of a particular perpetrator was "the only injury suffered"?

- that the mob was unarmed?

- that attempted murder, and particularly the attempted murder of the vice president and elected legislators, to say nothing of the attempted overthrow of an election result which had already been questioned, audited, investigated and litigated more comprehensively than any previous election and subsequently declared valid, is merely "felony trespassing"?

These claims have been demonstrably falsified.

The obscenely dishonest bullshit about much concerning the events at the U.S. Capitol on January 6th, 2021 --after two years of official obfuscation of the documentation-- is about to be shown up for what it is:

... "Imagine the universal outrage in any other situation had crucial video of what the government considered a terror attack been kept away from the public for more than two years. Influential opinion pages would have banged the drum incessantly for its release, insisting some sort of cover up was unfolding. Progressive activist groups and elected officials would demand a full accounting of what happened before, during, and after the “attack,” including all government-produced evidence. Influential lawyers and legal defense funds would lament the deprivation of due process for those involved in the allegedly heinous act.

"Instead, the usual defenders of accountability, transparency, and constitutional rights have been completely AWOL. The fight has been waged by outmatched defense attorneys in the rigged legal and judicial system in the nation’s capital. And a handful of influencers like Carlson.

"To be fair, a consortium called the Press Coalition forced a few federal judges to lift protective orders on a small amount of surveillance video. Representing more than a dozen major news companies, the coalition successfully won the release of limited security footage that, in some instances, contradicted the assertion that police did not allow protesters into the building that afternoon. Unsealed video also showed how police brutalized women inside the lower west terrace tunnel.

"In a laughable “reality check” in his article, Axios reporter Mike Allen suggested the public has seen enough surveillance video since the 'Jan. 6 committee played numerous excerpts of the footage at last year’s captivating hearings.' But not only were most of the evidentiary video clips sourced from protesters’ cell phones, the surveillance video clips offered by the committee represented an infinitesimal sliver of the total collection.

"Which, notably, is much bigger than what the government has made available to January 6 defendants. Axios reported that Carlson’s team has 41,000 hours of raw footage --" ...

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Anatomy of a Cover-up: The January 6 Tapes |
"Like all good political scandals, the path to the truth begins with the tapes." |By Julie Kelly | February 21, 2023

>158 proximity1: Wow. She brushes over the main issue here, and then you don't quote where she touches the main issue. If the Democrats had given the tapes to Michael Moore, I would have smelled cover-up. Not that I think Michael Moore is a bad guy, but he is a propagandist and decidedly on one side; choosing to give the tapes only to him is suspicious. Giving the tapes to the public is debatable; giving the tapes to Tucker Carlson is giving them to a one-sided propagandist with problems with truth and not to serious journalists or making them publicly available.