Entering awards data
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1hipdeep
Given that the bug(s?) described at https://www.librarything.com/topic/335703 and https://www.librarything.com/topic/145603 appear to be really complicated, do folks have a best practice regarding entering awards data?
My personal inclination is to just enter Award (Subcategory, Year) and live with the fact that the awards pages will be kind of ugly and need sorting in the future. At least the data on the book page will look right, and the award info itself will be safe, whereas if I enter Award (Order | Subcategory, Year) some future editor is likely to come along, trigger the bug, and then both the award page and the book page will lose information and be ugly.
Anyway, that's my feeling, which is kind of tied up with my feelings about losing my volunteer labor on the site. But I'm open to other thoughts.
My personal inclination is to just enter Award (Subcategory, Year) and live with the fact that the awards pages will be kind of ugly and need sorting in the future. At least the data on the book page will look right, and the award info itself will be safe, whereas if I enter Award (Order | Subcategory, Year) some future editor is likely to come along, trigger the bug, and then both the award page and the book page will lose information and be ugly.
Anyway, that's my feeling, which is kind of tied up with my feelings about losing my volunteer labor on the site. But I'm open to other thoughts.
2bergs47
I agree I been on their backs for about 6 months and I get little response. I think Ill go back to doing awards soon
3davidgn
My comment was that I had found another place on the site where the awards still seem to appear as entered (at least for most -- haven't tested), and from which the CK might be restored to how it originally appeared. I've been too busy and have forgotten where that was, but will try to post on the bug thread once I've figured it out again.
4karenb
I'm avoiding entering awards data until that bug can be fixed. I'd really rather not lose all that collective hard work from the past.
While the bug remains a problem, I am hoping that anyone who adds award info does so only to books that won't be affected by the bug. That means new works only, and only the simpler awards with few or no categories.
Yes, I can spend time entering data on LT. No, I do not want to make extra work for anyone by messing it up now. I also do not want to spend my time fixing any messes created deliberately by ignoring the bug.
I'm hoping that maybe LT 2.0 will finally fix the bug. (Yes, I can be an optimist.)
While the bug remains a problem, I am hoping that anyone who adds award info does so only to books that won't be affected by the bug. That means new works only, and only the simpler awards with few or no categories.
Yes, I can spend time entering data on LT. No, I do not want to make extra work for anyone by messing it up now. I also do not want to spend my time fixing any messes created deliberately by ignoring the bug.
I'm hoping that maybe LT 2.0 will finally fix the bug. (Yes, I can be an optimist.)
5bergs47
Im going to work on the Eric Hoffer books awards for 2021. Its not a major award,
A grand prize of $2,500 is awarded annually. In addition, Eric Hoffer Book Award honors include various prizes within eighteen all-inclusive categories,
I have done a few and they seem all right on the page
https://www.librarything.com/bookaward/Eric+Hoffer+Book+Award
A grand prize of $2,500 is awarded annually. In addition, Eric Hoffer Book Award honors include various prizes within eighteen all-inclusive categories,
I have done a few and they seem all right on the page
https://www.librarything.com/bookaward/Eric+Hoffer+Book+Award
6andyl
>1 hipdeep:
Take a look at some of the SF awards and nomination lists
On works I enter something like "Hugo Nominee (1974.1 | Novel, 1974)" and "Hugo Nominee (1974.2 | Novella, 1974)" and do not have a problem.
The issues with the pipe symbol seems only to occur on author CK.
Take a look at some of the SF awards and nomination lists
On works I enter something like "Hugo Nominee (1974.1 | Novel, 1974)" and "Hugo Nominee (1974.2 | Novella, 1974)" and do not have a problem.
The issues with the pipe symbol seems only to occur on author CK.
7gilroy
>6 andyl: Actually, the pipe problem in other CK has been intermittent, which has made it hard to track down and fix.
8andyl
>7 gilroy:
Really? I have extensively used pipes in awards over the past 3 or 4 years and had no problems. Every time I have edited the award it has appeared as I expected it (as originally entered). I guess I must have been lucky.
Really? I have extensively used pipes in awards over the past 3 or 4 years and had no problems. Every time I have edited the award it has appeared as I expected it (as originally entered). I guess I must have been lucky.
9bergs47
Have you all seen my posts here.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/335703#n7698131
Its strange that there are so few comments. I guess its because there are not that many serious award "workers".
See how few readers there are in this topic
https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/547/The-Prizes
https://www.librarything.com/topic/335703#n7698131
Its strange that there are so few comments. I guess its because there are not that many serious award "workers".
See how few readers there are in this topic
https://www.librarything.com/ngroups/547/The-Prizes
10hipdeep
>6 andyl: Thanks! To be clear though, I don't think I've ever seen a problem with _entering new_ award data, myself. I have repeatedly (though not very recently) seen the problem where _editing_ data (including adding a new award) seems to garble _existing_ piped data. Which is both inconvenient (since it means you have to check every entry when you just want to add/edit one of them) and darn hard to track down later.
But I can't recreate it at the moment on the 3 or 4 books I've tried, so maybe it's better now.
But I can't recreate it at the moment on the 3 or 4 books I've tried, so maybe it's better now.