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CK Original Publication Date visibility mismatch between librarything.es and librarything.com

1telardelibros
Modificato: Gen 1, 2022, 1:38 pm

Hi, for the last couple of days I have been trying to update CK Original Publication Date for some of my books in the Spanish instance of Library Thing (librarything.es), however it is not visible on my 'Your books' page (I have added CK Orig. Pub as a column in this page). If I access my catalogue from librarything.com instead, CK Orig. Pub appears filled in for these last entries.
For entries prior to Dec 2021, I have the opposite situation. My edits to CK Orig. Pub are visible in my catalogue on librarything.es but not on librarything.com.
Would you have some advice on how to solve this?
Thank you

2SandraArdnas
Gen 1, 2022, 12:49 pm

CK is not shared among different language domains since it's supposed to be in that particular language. However, if .es has nothing in a particular field, but some other langauage CK does, it shows in green. I'm guessing the green stuff doesn't show in catalogue, only on work page and you'd need to save it as part of ,es CK to show.

3telardelibros
Gen 1, 2022, 1:38 pm

>2 SandraArdnas: Thanks for the hint. I checked CK history on one of the records and the edit shows for language: english, even though I was doing it from the .es page. I am not sure how to edit the Spanish CK, which I guess would make it appear in the catalogue.

4MarthaJeanne
Modificato: Gen 1, 2022, 2:01 pm

I just looked at https://www.librarything.com/work/27309951/210197222

The publication date is there in English. We ought to be able to change the language at the top of CK, but it doesn't work. It does work for canonical title, though. From .com I was able to enter a Spanish canonical title.

It looks to me as if somebody, quite reasonably, said that original publication should be the same for all languages, so it is the same for all sites, but getting that into the catalogues wasn't finished.

It is a bug if you can't get it to show in a .es catalogue.

5telardelibros
Gen 1, 2022, 2:16 pm

>4 MarthaJeanne: Thanks for checking!
There may have been a change on the ability to edit original publication sometime last year, as I have made edits to Spanish CK original publication date before.
It makes complete sense though that this date should be the same for all languages, not being able to show it on a .es catalogue (I guess it will happen for other languages too) sounds indeed like a bug.

6Llyfryddwr
Modificato: Gen 2, 2022, 10:45 am

If I remember correctly, work Original Publication Date CK was one of a number of fields that were made non-localisable (is that a word?), others including authors' dates and gender. Was this supposedly in preparation for the legendary LT v.2? Along with a request not to use non-English equivalents of male, female etc. for the time being. There's a thread somewhere.

Therefore, whatever language you use to add CK to those fields, it gets credited to English. See, for example, Saint Greal, https://cym.librarything.com/work/23707060, where I added a bit of CK in the Welsh LT, cym., including OPD (Dyddiad cyhoeddi gwreiddiol), but it was credited to English, resulting in Cymraeg (Welsh) (3), Saesneg (English) (1).

Until LT makes OPD localisable again, you have to add translation dates to a common LT-wide OPD field. Although with care please, as I'm pretty sure editing the field deletes preserved historical content in all other languages. See, e.g., the rich content in the various language OPD fields of The Lord of the Rings, https://www.librarything.com/work/1386651, all at risk of instant deletion the moment someone decides to edit or resave.