Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria? Edition vs Work
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1aspirit
The standalone book Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria? and Other Conversations About Race exists on LibraryThing as four works.
https://www.librarything.com/work/20253560 (1997 edition)
https://www.librarything.com/work/20676506 (1999 edition)
https://www.librarything.com/work/20198100 (2003 edition)
https://www.librarything.com/work/20256709 (2017 edition)
I noticed this when the title showed as multiple recommendations on a work page. From the info in the Common Knowledge and the reviews, the different editions actually look to me like one work, despite the disambiguation notices' suggestion to keep the editions separate.
There was an attempt to combine the editions before. See https://www.librarything.com/topic/224493#6252411 through #72. The argument against combining seems to be that the editions have "different content", but as far as I'm aware, that's the vague definition of a unique edition, not a unique work. In the same thread, #87 seems relevant to the conversation.
Maybe I'm missing what is so different to make the editions unique works for LT cataloguing. Does anyone have more info to share? If not, then what are the current thoughts of the group-- combine these editions or keep them as separate works?
https://www.librarything.com/work/20253560 (1997 edition)
https://www.librarything.com/work/20676506 (1999 edition)
https://www.librarything.com/work/20198100 (2003 edition)
https://www.librarything.com/work/20256709 (2017 edition)
I noticed this when the title showed as multiple recommendations on a work page. From the info in the Common Knowledge and the reviews, the different editions actually look to me like one work, despite the disambiguation notices' suggestion to keep the editions separate.
There was an attempt to combine the editions before. See https://www.librarything.com/topic/224493#6252411 through #72. The argument against combining seems to be that the editions have "different content", but as far as I'm aware, that's the vague definition of a unique edition, not a unique work. In the same thread, #87 seems relevant to the conversation.
Maybe I'm missing what is so different to make the editions unique works for LT cataloguing. Does anyone have more info to share? If not, then what are the current thoughts of the group-- combine these editions or keep them as separate works?
2spiralsheep
>1 aspirit: I'd generally support the cocktail party approach but I have no special information in this case.
Although the member who did the separation only lists two separate texts out of at least three editions (possibly four) published at that time:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224493#6253009
Jasbro: "I've re-separated the first (1997) and revised (1999) editions, and added DNs across the board to highlight the differences."
Although the member who did the separation only lists two separate texts out of at least three editions (possibly four) published at that time:
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224493#6253009
Jasbro: "I've re-separated the first (1997) and revised (1999) editions, and added DNs across the board to highlight the differences."
3aspirit
Okay, so I have another scattered few moments to look for info. The author lists Why Are All the Black Kids Sitting Together in the Cafeteria? as a single work (with multiple editions).
https://www.beverlydanieltatum.com/published-works/
An interview for the 2017 release seems to equate the editions as one work. But then it also brings up events that happened in the previous twenty years....
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2017/10/10/why-are-all-the-black-kids-sitting-toge...
https://www.beverlydanieltatum.com/published-works/
An interview for the 2017 release seems to equate the editions as one work. But then it also brings up events that happened in the previous twenty years....
https://www.mprnews.org/story/2017/10/10/why-are-all-the-black-kids-sitting-toge...
4r.orrison
>1 aspirit:
The content being different is pretty much the definition of what makes different works. (In LibraryThing, editions are determined by title/author/ISBN, not what you would consider the standard dictionary definition of edition.) But, when the content is mostly the same, it becomes a matter of opinion. An added foreword usually isn't enough. An extra 20 years of content seems like enough justification to keep them separate.
Usually if someone knows and cares enough about the works to separate them and write a disambiguation notice explaining why, I'll respect that.
The content being different is pretty much the definition of what makes different works. (In LibraryThing, editions are determined by title/author/ISBN, not what you would consider the standard dictionary definition of edition.) But, when the content is mostly the same, it becomes a matter of opinion. An added foreword usually isn't enough. An extra 20 years of content seems like enough justification to keep them separate.
Usually if someone knows and cares enough about the works to separate them and write a disambiguation notice explaining why, I'll respect that.
5MarthaJeanne
Going from 270 pages to 453 pages indicates that there has been a lot of added content.
However, the chapter titles seem to have stayed the same except for the added epilogue.
However, the chapter titles seem to have stayed the same except for the added epilogue.
