Gargantua and pantagruel fs limited
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1fancythings
Really want this book but my parents would never agree to get $795 plus shipping edition. It has Dore illustrations, which I like. Oversized and really impressive volumes. And, very important, to me, FS edition has modern translation. Unlike many archaic translation that EP uses in their limited edition.
2jroger1
It is fabulous! The translator is M.A. Screech, who is my favorite translator of Montaigne also. It is the only edition in English to include all of Dore’s 700+ illustrations.
Forgo your textbooks for a semester and buy this one instead.
I like to think I might have had something to do with its publication, as I wrote a note to FS suggesting it a couple of years before it appeared.
Forgo your textbooks for a semester and buy this one instead.
I like to think I might have had something to do with its publication, as I wrote a note to FS suggesting it a couple of years before it appeared.
3treereader
>2 jroger1:
That’s hardly more than a dollar a picture!
>1 fancythings:
If you were a hardened addict, you’d start selling your parents’ possessions to get a fresh Dore-illustrated LE fix. Maybe you’re just a recreational LE reader.
That’s hardly more than a dollar a picture!
>1 fancythings:
If you were a hardened addict, you’d start selling your parents’ possessions to get a fresh Dore-illustrated LE fix. Maybe you’re just a recreational LE reader.
4jroger1
>3 treereader: “That’s hardly more than a dollar a picture!”
That is why I often complain about today’s illustrators. Dore, Rackham, and other artists of their generation routinely produced 50 to 100 or more illustrations for a book. Today’s artists think they are giving us a bargain if they produce 8 to 12, and publishers seem to accept this new norm.
That is why I often complain about today’s illustrators. Dore, Rackham, and other artists of their generation routinely produced 50 to 100 or more illustrations for a book. Today’s artists think they are giving us a bargain if they produce 8 to 12, and publishers seem to accept this new norm.
5fancythings
Lol thanks guys for your horrible advices lol. My parents said that they will get it as my graduation present this coming May. It is a fabulous edition and my parents got used to paying high book prices for my biology textbooks. Lol. I told my parents that this high priced book, I’m actually going to enjoy, unlike all of my biology textbooks lol
6astropi
I prefer what you call the "archaic" translation. It is closer to the actual text, and typically I am not a fan of so-called "modern" translations. Not to mention that after taxes and shipping, you're paying nearly $1000... but of course to each their own.
7treereader
>5 fancythings:
Don't forget to ask for a nice bookshelf, too. It sounds like your collection is about to make the jump to small library in short time...
Don't forget to ask for a nice bookshelf, too. It sounds like your collection is about to make the jump to small library in short time...
8fancythings
>7 treereader: our house is very old house that came with builtin oak library shelves. My parents were collecting from EP and FS way before me. So, our library is not small but not really large. My parents called FS and were told that they stopped offering monthly payments for their limited editions. So, my parents won’t buy it before May, which is my official graduation.
9HugoDumas
>8 fancythings: this is quite a find. I read the Franklin Library edition with about 150 Dore illustrations. I hope your parents purchased it and are holding it for graduation since 3/4 of them are already sold.
10treereader
>8 fancythings:
I meant *your* library...I'm assuming that once graduated, you'll fly the nest and take only your books with you.
I meant *your* library...I'm assuming that once graduated, you'll fly the nest and take only your books with you.
11fancythings
> 10 nooo! Never want to leave the nest. Lol
12fancythings
>9 HugoDumas: yeah, I told the same thing to my parents. They will think about buying now. How come FS no longer has payment plan? By eliminating their payment plan option they also eliminated a lot of customers who can only afford it through payment plan
13EPsonNY
>12 fancythings: Risk management 101. FS has not eliminated that many customers while they now get more money upfront. Most credit card providers these days offer some sort of "Plan It" feature that allows their customers to split any $100+ qualifying purchases into smaller monthly installments with little fees (or no fees during promotional periods). FS gets the money right away and if there are any non-payment issues, banks/credit cards companies assume all the risk... Improved cash flow, especially during worsening employment situation, in the UK and also here, matters a lot. FS decision may also be Brexit related perhaps to do with the increased costs of multiple money transfers...
14fancythings
Still, it was a really nice feature that FS eliminated. I got Lovecraft LE from my parents and they used monthly payments.
15EPsonNY
>14 fancythings: If one of your parents is a dentist or perhaps both are, ask them is they would accept six $200 monthly cash payments for a $1,200 dental procedure from their patient (no insurance company involved so they bear all the risk). Then ask them if they would do it for 20-50% of their customer base and what impact it would have on them running their office (overhead expenses, staff salaries etc.). FS is a book publisher and doubling up as a financial institution to their customers came at a cost, cost that probably got too steep to bear factoring in leaving single EU market and Covid's impact on business...
16fancythings
>15 EPsonNY: you comparing apples to oranges. Look at EP and its monthly payments. Large enterprises like EP only benefiting from monthly payment arrangements. But again, this is only my opinion and, of course, you entitled to have yours.
17whytewolf1
>14 fancythings: One of the things a lot of collectors use these days is PayPal credit. You can apply with a click, and they'll tell you how much you qualify for. The best part is that if you pay off the purchase in less than 6 months, there is no interest. But the trap for those who might be tempted despite precarious finances is that if you do not pay it off within 6 months, you get slapped with back interest from the date of purchase at a very high rate. However, Easton, FS, eBay, and many other merchants accept PayPal credit payments.
18fancythings
>17 whytewolf1: lol I’m not that serious about getting this book. I want it and if my parents decide to get it as my graduation present, I’ll be happy. If not, I’ll be happy anyway. Graduation is awesome by itself. I’m happy about any EP or FS limited editions.
19whytewolf1
>18 fancythings: It was just more of a possible solution for the lack of split payments being offered by FS or anyone else who might be selling high-priced books that you're interested in. ;)
20fancythings
>19 whytewolf1: appreciate your advice. Thank you
21treereader
>16 fancythings:
MBI might be larger than Folio Society but I really suspect Folio Society is a bigger business than Easton Press. Their willingness to work with payments almost certainly has to do less with company size and more to do with having a business model that either supports selling in payments or one that presupposes a payment model.
MBI might be larger than Folio Society but I really suspect Folio Society is a bigger business than Easton Press. Their willingness to work with payments almost certainly has to do less with company size and more to do with having a business model that either supports selling in payments or one that presupposes a payment model.
22jroger1
>21 treereader:
The question of which company is bigger is an interesting one. Adding up its 4 categories - fiction, nonfiction, children’s, and LEs, Folio Society has 419 titles currently for sale.
Easton’s “All Categories” list shows just 217, but that is a substantial undercount because its series - Greatest Books, Military History, and the 3 signed series only count as one each.
Of course, the number of titles doesn’t equate to total sales, but I suspect there isn’t a whole lot of difference.
The question of which company is bigger is an interesting one. Adding up its 4 categories - fiction, nonfiction, children’s, and LEs, Folio Society has 419 titles currently for sale.
Easton’s “All Categories” list shows just 217, but that is a substantial undercount because its series - Greatest Books, Military History, and the 3 signed series only count as one each.
Of course, the number of titles doesn’t equate to total sales, but I suspect there isn’t a whole lot of difference.
23kdweber
>15 EPsonNY: "six $200 monthly cash payments for a $1,200 dental procedure" That's exactly how orthodontia works. Both of my children had orthodontia growing up and and we paid in monthly installments for years. I believe almost everyone was on this installment plan.
24fancythings
>23 kdweber: thanks for explaining that. I did not want to get into that conversation with him/her. Lol
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