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1krazy4katz
Modificato: Nov 30, 2020, 12:22 pm

Hello good people! This post concerns a question I had a number of weeks ago, but I can no longer find the post. Based on your advice (and your efforts) The Life and Times of the Code Talker was determined to be a separate work from Code Talker. Both works have the same 2 authors. However, when you go to the author page of one of them from this link: Judith Schiess Avila it only shows one of these works. If I go to the author page from the work, it shows a different author page. Very confusing! I left it for a long time, hoping the problem would eventually work itself out. I also made sure that her name was listed identically under "other Authors" for both works. However, as you can see, it is still inconsistent. Any thoughts? Or should I just forget about it. Thank you!

Edited to add: now the author page has changed, perhaps because I linked to her from this post. Now it shows the second book under Other Books. Very strange.

2lilithcat
Modificato: Nov 30, 2020, 12:18 pm

It was just a matter of author pages that needed combining.

It's okay now: https://www.librarything.com/author/avilajudithschiess

3r.orrison
Nov 30, 2020, 12:18 pm

One of them was spelled Judith Scheiss Avila and the other was Judith Schiess Avila. I've recalculated the other authors and confirmed the correctly spelled one.

4krazy4katz
Modificato: Nov 30, 2020, 12:22 pm

OK, sorry! Confusion set to rest.

ETA: still not quite right, but better. Thank you!

5Conkie
Modificato: Dic 8, 2020, 12:08 am

>4 krazy4katz: ETA: still not quite right, but better.

Yes, I see what you mean. When >2 lilithcat: combined them, the two works were separated on the author page... The Life and Times of the Code Talker was under "Works by Judith Schiess Avila," and Code Talker was under "Also by Judith Schiess Avila".

Specifically, look at in Picture #1:
Members: 1 (276)
"The Life and Times of the Code Talker" : 1 copy, 1 review
"Code Talker" : 275 copies, 10 reviews.




I re-separated them, and am showing screenshots of what is weird...

Picture #2:
URL: https://www.librarything.com/author/schiessavilajudith
Members: 276
"Code Talker" : 275 copies, 10 reviews.

"The Life and Times of the Code Talker" : 1 copy, 1 review



Picture #3:
URL: https://www.librarything.com/author/avilajudithschiess
Members: 0 (275)
"Code Talker" : 275 copies, 10 reviews.




Picture #2 looks correct, and the clicking on the authors takes one to the correct author pages, but it leaves Picture #3 stranded.

Feel free to recombine, but the two URLs seems to be causing the split "Also by" to occur, when the names are combined.

Needs to be looked at again?

edit: fixed touchstone

6Opteryx
Dic 7, 2020, 8:04 pm

>5 Conkie: Your 'Code Talker' touchstone appears to be going to a different book with the same title, currently - https://www.librarything.com/work/947568 (wrong one) vs https://www.librarything.com/work/11531037 (right one).

Anyway, Judith is a 'main author' rather than the 'primary author' on that work, because someone else (Chester Nez) has their name in larger print on the cover, and she was just on the cover as "with Judith Schiess Avila". But I thought 'main authors' normally still got those works in their main works list on their author page, and only 'secondary authors' had the works end up in the 'also by' secondary work list. So there does seem to be some sort of glitch going on there.

7krazy4katz
Modificato: Dic 7, 2020, 8:13 pm

>6 Opteryx: Chester Nez is the subject of both books, so they are really memoirs. I assume Judith Schiess Avila helped him write it in a more literary manner. It is odd that she is treated differently in the 2 works.

ETA: It looks as though it is fixed now. Thank you to whoever did this!

8Opteryx
Dic 7, 2020, 8:19 pm

>7 krazy4katz: I agree that the book I indicated "right one" next to is a memoir of sorts with Judith helping him write it, but I'm not sure if you're talking about the same book I was for the second one. The "wrong one" book accidentally touchstoned in post 5 was "Code Talker: A Novel About the Navajo Marines of World War Two, by Joseph Bruchac", which had no apparent involvement of Judith and was never listed on any of her author pages.

9Conkie
Dic 8, 2020, 12:15 am

>6 Opteryx: Fixed touchstone. Forgot to check before posting. Thanks

>7 krazy4katz: It's fixed, sort of. Look closer to Picture #2 and Picture #3. These names used to be combined (>2 lilithcat:), but in order to find out why one was considered "Also by...", I separated them again. I recalculated each author page, fiddled with the author name in "Other Authors", tried recombining, but the "Also by..." split was still there. So, I separated them a 2nd time... which is how they are now.

My bet is, the issue has something to do with the URL's (how the author name is organized):

avilajudithschiess vs. schiessavilajudith.

10krazy4katz
Modificato: Dic 8, 2020, 12:36 am

>8 Opteryx: Yes, I understand that was a book with a similar name written by someone else.

>9 Conkie: I had a difficult time trying to figure out how to organize her name too. At least if you follow the link to her name from either work, it goes to an author page that lists both. That is a big improvement. I notice on her website she now just calls herself Judith Avila. Would it be useful to fill that in in Common Knowledge or would that make more of a mess? I guess I'm OK with it now, but I agree it is not quite right.

11Conkie
Dic 8, 2020, 9:55 pm

>10 krazy4katz: ...now just calls herself Judith Avila. Would it be useful to fill that in in Common Knowledge or would that make more of a mess?

Honestly, I would have >2 lilithcat: or >3 r.orrison: decide on that.
Plus, I want them to decide whether the two names should be re-combined again, as when they are combined, the split presentation of works on the author's page still occurs... unless they know how to correct the names, so that doesn't happen.

I could re-combine them, since I separated them after >2 lilithcat: combined them. But, I wanted to know why the author's page looked like that.

12krazy4katz
Dic 9, 2020, 12:32 pm

I agree with leaving it up to whoever is the expert here. I certainly am not qualified to make that decision.