Spam reporting thread #49
Questo è il seguito della conversazione Spam reporting thread #47 (actually #48 as there are two #s46).
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1lilithcat
PROCEDURES FOR REPORTING SPAM
Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:
-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.
-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.
Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.
Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.
For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Spam#Procedures_for_flagging_and_repo....
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works
(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)
Distinguish between the following, and flag the highest level of the violation:
-- Type 1: Irredeemable commercial spam: make sure to flag the member's profile, as well as the spammy activity. This type includes things selling strollers, pharmaceuticals, live-streaming sports games, porn, and/or trying to create traffic/links to sites for such things. Sufficient profile flags will automatically result in temporary suspension and deletion of the member's activity, so use your profile-flagging powers wisely and carefully.
-- Type 2: Teachable moments: DO NOT flag the member's profile, but DO flag the violating activity (e.g. self-promotional Talk post, group, or local venue). This type includes promotional activity that violates the Terms of Service (TOS), but where the member is potentially redeemable, e.g. overzealous authors, overzealous publishers, or other members with small TOS violations but who are otherwise using the site legitimately. These cases should be reported to staff (by sending a message or email to staff and/or or posting on this thread), so the member can be taught how to use the site.
Specific procedures:
-- Overzealous authors or publishers (these fall under type 2): do NOT flag the member's profile. Report to staff here or privately. You can also send the member a polite message pointing them to the terms, mentioning the "no promoting" language, and pointing them to the Do's and Don't page for authors: http://www.librarything.com/about_authors.php
-- Suspected sock-puppetry to promote a book, write fake reviews, and/or stack ratings: do not flag the profile, but report to staff here or by message, so staff can investigate. This is a serious violation for which members can be permanently banned.
-- Profile flags for commercial spammers only (type 1): On the member's profile page, click on the "report for spam" link, then follow instructions to flag the member. Again, this is only for commercial spam, not for "overzealous" authors, publishers, or booksellers, which should be reported to staff instead. See Talk post: http://www.librarything.com/topic/85810
-- Spam or promotional posts in a Talk topic (type 1 or 2): flag the post as an abuse of the terms of service.
-- Spam or promotional groups (types 1 and 2): flag new groups using the "flag this group" link.
-- Spam lists: report in this thread, and flag the member if it's commercial spam.
-- Spam works (type 1 spam): flag the work as spam on the work's editions page, and then vote on proposed work spam. Make sure to read the guidelines before proposing or voting, especially for what is not spam. Voting page: http://www.librarything.com/spam_works.php
-- Spam in a review (type 1), or an explicitly promotional review (type 2): flag the review as an abuse of the TOS, using the red flag.
-- Spam or promotion in "published reviews," or other CK fields (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete.
-- Spam or egregious promotion/advertising in venues or events (type 1 or 2): post here and/or delete. Note that authors are permitted to add events for their books.
-- Spam in book links / quick links: post here and/or edit to remove spam.
-- Spam author names listed on a work: No current procedure. Tim has asked us not to change CK to indicate spammers, and not to combine spam authors together.
-- Not sure if it's spam? Post here, and explain why.
Please note that Tim has asked us not to use either CK or the combining system (whether works or authors) for spam fighting.
For more information see these wiki pages:
Procedures for flagging and reporting spam: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/Spam#Procedures_for_flagging_and_repo....
Spam works, guidelines for flagging and voting: http://www.librarything.com/wiki/index.php/HelpThing:Spam_works
(A copy of these guidelines, for pasting in new threads, can be found here or at the top of previous threads.)
3Taphophile13
>2 2wonderY:
A review on another of his books appears to be by hired reviewer:
http://www.librarything.com/work/11886733/book/90530003
A review on another of his books appears to be by hired reviewer:
http://www.librarything.com/work/11886733/book/90530003
6rybie2
http://www.librarything.com/profile/kasdbayu and the 20 flagged Chinese spam works.
72wonderY
>6 rybie2: Reviews should disappear with the works, yes? But I flagged them as well.
10rybie2
>7 2wonderY: As far as I can tell, yes, reviews do go away when the spam work goes away.
15tardis
http://www.librarything.com/profile/authorbpm
http://www.librarything.com/topic/223368#
and several more topics, too.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/223368#
and several more topics, too.
16Lyndatrue
>15 tardis: Are you saying to flag the profile, or not? I'm confused. The topic you listed is long gone.
17tardis
>16 Lyndatrue: Well, if the topics are gone, that's good enough.
182wonderY
>15 tardis: I thought the multiple spamming threads in quick succession, with no personal intro deserved a profile flag.
19lilithcat
>15 tardis:. >16 Lyndatrue:, >18 2wonderY:
It is always helpful, in these cases, to be specific as to the nature of the problem. There's a difference between an overenthusiastic author and a spammer.
In any case, we've been asked not to flag author profiles, but to report them to staff.
It is always helpful, in these cases, to be specific as to the nature of the problem. There's a difference between an overenthusiastic author and a spammer.
In any case, we've been asked not to flag author profiles, but to report them to staff.
20Lyndatrue
>19 lilithcat: I prefer not to flag profiles unless the reason to do so is given, and (with extraordinarily rare exception) I don't flag author profiles. I will go to the bother when the author in question is violating the low bar of common sense, and persisting in reposting the same blatant advertisement to section after section of the site, AND it's the weekend, or other time where help is not going to arrive in a timely manner (and I'm reasonable on that).
In addition to the above, I also provide a comment (or two) on the author's profile. In a couple of cases, the author has taken great umbrage to my very polite reminder (I didn't write it, I "borrowed" it from someone else who has often posted it).
I am careful (usually) about not giving in to impulses to flag before I've had adequate coffee, recognizing that I normally lack people skills, and that, uncaffeinated, I lack even basic humanity.
>18 2wonderY: There might well have been multiple spamming threads, but they weren't listed here (I know, I know, it's a bother, but it should still be done). There isn't anyone currently participating in this that I don't like and respect, but we still need to be like Caesar's wife.
In addition to the above, I also provide a comment (or two) on the author's profile. In a couple of cases, the author has taken great umbrage to my very polite reminder (I didn't write it, I "borrowed" it from someone else who has often posted it).
I am careful (usually) about not giving in to impulses to flag before I've had adequate coffee, recognizing that I normally lack people skills, and that, uncaffeinated, I lack even basic humanity.
>18 2wonderY: There might well have been multiple spamming threads, but they weren't listed here (I know, I know, it's a bother, but it should still be done). There isn't anyone currently participating in this that I don't like and respect, but we still need to be like Caesar's wife.
21lilithcat
>20 Lyndatrue:
I am careful (usually) about not giving in to impulses to flag before I've had adequate coffee,
For me, it's that first cup of tea in the morning. Without it, I am not recognizably human.
I am careful (usually) about not giving in to impulses to flag before I've had adequate coffee,
For me, it's that first cup of tea in the morning. Without it, I am not recognizably human.
36Collectorator
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392wonderY
It was new member CreationsArt disingenuously wanting to discuss adult coloring books.
41MarthaJeanne
http://www.librarything.com/groups/ruthajuriya
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ruthajuriya
Gone.
>40 gilroy: I have not yet seen adult adult colouring books, but who knows?
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ruthajuriya
Gone.
>40 gilroy: I have not yet seen adult adult colouring books, but who knows?
42lilithcat
Adult coloring books are all the rage these days. It doesn't necessarily, or even usually, mean "X-rated".
Based on the book CreationsArt has on her shelf, I wonder if her post was misunderstood.
Based on the book CreationsArt has on her shelf, I wonder if her post was misunderstood.
43gilroy
>41 MarthaJeanne:, >42 lilithcat: Check Spenser's Gifts. They do exist. :)
44lilithcat
I'm sure they do, although none of the coloring books at Spenser's Gifts are X (or even R) -rated. My point was that most adult coloring books are not "naughty novelties". They are used for meditation, relaxation, stress relief, etc. If you look at the book on @CreationArt's shelf, it is definitely in that category.
I would very much like to know the content of the flagged post, because based on the poster's profile and the book of which she is the author, I am starting to doubt that it was flaggable. The term "adult" may have caused people to jump to erroneous conclusions.
I would very much like to know the content of the flagged post, because based on the poster's profile and the book of which she is the author, I am starting to doubt that it was flaggable. The term "adult" may have caused people to jump to erroneous conclusions.
45gilroy
Oh, I didn't even get the chance to flag it. I just made a joke of it (which seems to be lost in the context of text. :P) I'm thinking it was solicitation for the book, though. You'll have to ask >34 2wonderY:
46lorax
>44 lilithcat:
I'm pretty sure the reason for flagging was as spam; authors promoting their own books, which this appears to have been (not seeing the post), still get the offending posts flagged, just not their profiles.
I'm pretty sure the reason for flagging was as spam; authors promoting their own books, which this appears to have been (not seeing the post), still get the offending posts flagged, just not their profiles.
47lilithcat
>46 lorax:
authors promoting their own books . . . still get the offending posts flagged, just not their profiles.
I know that.
But the reason for the flagging was not apparent, nor were the responses to my question about it. I do wish that people who post here would state their reasons.
authors promoting their own books . . . still get the offending posts flagged, just not their profiles.
I know that.
But the reason for the flagging was not apparent, nor were the responses to my question about it. I do wish that people who post here would state their reasons.
48lorax
>47 lilithcat:
2wonderY's explanation in #39 (particularly the "disingenuously" part of the wording) implied to me that it was self-promotion, but I agree 100% that I'd like to see reasons stated for those of us who are late to the party.
2wonderY's explanation in #39 (particularly the "disingenuously" part of the wording) implied to me that it was self-promotion, but I agree 100% that I'd like to see reasons stated for those of us who are late to the party.
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53lorax
>50 Collectorator:
When there's the possibility for ambiguity I tend to use "grown-up". It may sound a bit childish but it's at least clear.
When there's the possibility for ambiguity I tend to use "grown-up". It may sound a bit childish but it's at least clear.
58Taphophile13
author spam
http://www.librarything.com/topic/223627#
I accidentally posted in the thread instead of leaving the message on the member's page. (I know better but I'm not fully awake yet.)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/223627#
I accidentally posted in the thread instead of leaving the message on the member's page. (I know better but I'm not fully awake yet.)
60Lyndatrue
>58 Taphophile13: Did you not flag the post from the author? I just flagged it, now, and it looks like I'm the only flag.
61Taphophile13
>60 Lyndatrue: Maybe I need to engage my brain a bit more.
63MarthaJeanne
http://www.librarything.com/profile/vivekeetrade
Um, all gone now. There was a group and a topic, too.
Um, all gone now. There was a group and a topic, too.
66lilithcat
Over-enthusiastic author promoting his book: https://www.librarything.com/topic/223781#
For information only, do not flag: https://www.librarything.com/profile/d.apergis
For information only, do not flag: https://www.librarything.com/profile/d.apergis
69Lyndatrue
>68 lilithcat: et alia. I'd headed over to the profile to leave a more explicit comment than yours, but I see that gilroy has done so already, this morning. Perhaps he'll learn. Who can say?
Odds are against it, but that's just me, cynical.
Odds are against it, but that's just me, cynical.
70gilroy
Next mispost, and I'm flagging the profile. I'm sure there were private comments before that were ignored, since this is a second offense...
71lorax
>70 gilroy:
I'm sure there were private comments before that were ignored, since this is a second offense...
Or public ones that were deleted.
I'm sure there were private comments before that were ignored, since this is a second offense...
Or public ones that were deleted.
72MarthaJeanne
>71 lorax: My goodness, someone else as suspicious as me!
73Taphophile13
enthusiastic author
http://www.librarything.com/topic/223813#
I left a note on his profile (do not flag)
http://www.librarything.com/profile/cluffy
http://www.librarything.com/topic/223813#
I left a note on his profile (do not flag)
http://www.librarything.com/profile/cluffy
74Marissa_Doyle
Waiting for this one to flip over into spam: http://www.librarything.com/topic/223833
75Mr.Durick
http://www.librarything.com/groups/goldfieldsofwesterna
looks like an advertisement for a web site so I flagged it.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/OutbackHistory
looks like an established member so I didn't flag it.
Robert
looks like an advertisement for a web site so I flagged it.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/OutbackHistory
looks like an established member so I didn't flag it.
Robert
76MarthaJeanne
>75 Mr.Durick: Looks to me like author spam. Same actions.
77MarthaJeanne
More author spam
https://www.librarything.com/topic/223862
(Author profile https://www.librarything.com/profile/PhilipAOldfield)
His reviews are all copied from other people.
ETA He responded: From PhilipAOldfield to you Today, 6:07am
Hi Martha Jeanne, I wasn't aware. Thanks for the links, appreciate it, Philip
Similar answer also to bernsad
https://www.librarything.com/topic/223862
(Author profile https://www.librarything.com/profile/PhilipAOldfield)
His reviews are all copied from other people.
ETA He responded: From PhilipAOldfield to you Today, 6:07am
Hi Martha Jeanne, I wasn't aware. Thanks for the links, appreciate it, Philip
Similar answer also to bernsad
79bernsad
Self promotion http://www.librarything.com/topic/223884
80MarthaJeanne
African horror author spam again http://www.librarything.com/topic/223885
(http://www.librarything.com/profile/Nuzo)
(http://www.librarything.com/profile/Nuzo)
81Lyndatrue
While there's no claim that this is the author, I'm thinking it is.
Profile for consistency, please don't flag.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/223890
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Flilow23
Profile for consistency, please don't flag.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/223890
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Flilow23
83davidgn
Spam in venues: http://www.librarything.com/profile/ionpenningsheld
ETA And works; and reviews... this guy is going nuts with mindless commercial spam.
ETA And works; and reviews... this guy is going nuts with mindless commercial spam.
91davidgn
Events have been edited to spam.
e.g. https://www.librarything.com/local_add_v2.php?event=2409928
https://www.librarything.com/local_add_v2.php?event=2409926
I can't tell who's doing it or how to respond.
e.g. https://www.librarything.com/local_add_v2.php?event=2409928
https://www.librarything.com/local_add_v2.php?event=2409926
I can't tell who's doing it or how to respond.
92Lyndatrue
>91 davidgn: You'll have to await someone with more experience than I. There's a history of who edits things, but I would hesitate to go poking around (I've had a long day, and am error prone when tired).
I'd leave it until someone shows up, so that they can at least see the profile of the perpetrator.
ETA: It would be helpful if you provided a link to the venue itself. That's an awfully common name.
I'd leave it until someone shows up, so that they can at least see the profile of the perpetrator.
ETA: It would be helpful if you provided a link to the venue itself. That's an awfully common name.
93bernsad
>91 davidgn: >92 Lyndatrue: It's the New Jersey venue https://www.librarything.com/venue/36465/Caldwell-Public-Library
94davidgn
>93 bernsad: Figures. :-p
99rybie2
>91 davidgn: >92 Lyndatrue: >93 bernsad: This happened recently, with a different spammer, and I wrote Loranne, since it was such a huge mess. She cleaned it quickly and cleanly, so I'm writing her now to ask her to step in again.
100lilithcat
I've deleted some of those "events", but the spammer is adding them faster than I can smack them down.
Gone now.
Gone now.
101lorannen
>91 davidgn: and >99 rybie2: Thanks for the message—I'm on it! Should be cleared up soon.
ETA: I think I've got this all taken care of. Post here (or message me directly, if you'd rather) if you see any others, and I'll take them down.
ETA: I think I've got this all taken care of. Post here (or message me directly, if you'd rather) if you see any others, and I'll take them down.
102davidgn
http://www.librarything.com/profile/jfred0469
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224348#
"Furious at any attempt" ...to spam. (S/he walked right into that one!)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224348#
"Furious at any attempt" ...to spam. (S/he walked right into that one!)
103Taphophile13
He's looking for reviews of his pimping book:
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224356#
http://www.librarything.com/work/17877639/130881450
ETA: OK, the topic is gone. The "work" remains along with his own review.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224356#
http://www.librarything.com/work/17877639/130881450
ETA: OK, the topic is gone. The "work" remains along with his own review.
104gilroy
>103 Taphophile13: I left a note on his profile.
105Taphophile13
>104 gilroy: Thank you. I didn't want to touch it.
106gilroy
>105 Taphophile13: Well, I left a note on the guy from the Is this Spam thread and his profile disappeared not long after I got a response saying he'd try to correct. So doubt it makes a difference any more. People are just flagging.
107MarthaJeanne
Author spam https://www.librarything.com/topic/224357
(https://www.librarything.com/profile/paulcollis should not be flagged.)
(https://www.librarything.com/profile/paulcollis should not be flagged.)
111rybie2
"Hello my sweet friends..." Ugh. http://www.librarything.com/profile/shweta1234
112rybie2
http://www.librarything.com/topic/222812#5606697 and posts that follow explain.
113rybie2
I also think the account http://www.librarything.com/profile/RajasthanAward created at the same time (and "friends" with the http://www.librarything.com/profile/SinexVisionIndia linked in >112 rybie2:) created spam venue http://www.librarything.com/venue/101392/, which is advertising and a link to YouTube; not a literary awards event at all.
1192wonderY
>117 lilithcat: You'd better call the baba and ask.
120Taphophile13
"If you really want to control your husband then you are right place. You can control your husband by vashikaran mantra. Vashikaran mantra for husband is one of the mostly demanded by the society. Vashikaran sutra is expert in this field."
http://www.librarything.com/profile/VashikaranMantraH
http://www.librarything.com/profile/VashikaranMantraH
122Taphophile13
mobile app
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Johnhopkins299
download Voot app
http://www.librarything.com/profile/vootapkdownload
http://www.librarything.com/profile/Johnhopkins299
download Voot app
http://www.librarything.com/profile/vootapkdownload
123Lyndatrue
The last four still need more flagging (in >120 Taphophile13: >121 Taphophile13: and >122 Taphophile13:)
EDIT: Only the last two now, in >122 Taphophile13:
EDIT: Only the last two now, in >122 Taphophile13:
124rybie2
Now just the two in >122 Taphophile13: still need flags.
125Taphophile13
>124 rybie2: And they're gone.
126Taphophile13
skilled labour recruitment
http://www.librarything.com/profile/BSmartDeaL
mobile apps
http://www.librarything.com/profile/appsforpc
apartments
http://www.librarything.com/profile/sterlinginfinia
http://www.librarything.com/profile/BSmartDeaL
mobile apps
http://www.librarything.com/profile/appsforpc
apartments
http://www.librarything.com/profile/sterlinginfinia
127Yamanekotei
http://www.librarything.com/profile/schd3311
"What you need to do is sort out the entire money early as these young women take as much time as necessary as indicated by the business norms."
http://www.librarything.com/profile/andhramess
"Best Andhra PG in Mumbai, Accommodation in Mumbai. Check our food menu with Andhra style, luxury facilities and spacious rooms. Visit our site to know more!Pg in mumbai"
"What you need to do is sort out the entire money early as these young women take as much time as necessary as indicated by the business norms."
http://www.librarything.com/profile/andhramess
"Best Andhra PG in Mumbai, Accommodation in Mumbai. Check our food menu with Andhra style, luxury facilities and spacious rooms. Visit our site to know more!Pg in mumbai"
128MarthaJeanne
http://www.librarything.com/groups/zimzashelly
http://www.librarything.com/profile/zimzashelly
helps your skin stay young and looking healthful. Cleanse your self from inside and hold youthful epidermis
http://www.librarything.com/profile/zimzashelly
helps your skin stay young and looking healthful. Cleanse your self from inside and hold youthful epidermis
130Taphophile13
black magic specialist
http://www.librarything.com/profile/blackmagicproblems
eye hospital / lasik
http://www.librarything.com/profile/sumandeep
henna designs
http://www.librarything.com/profile/mehandidesigns
SEO
http://www.librarything.com/profile/seositehub
Bid Document collection and bid submission on client's behalf
http://www.librarything.com/profile/tendersinfo
parking of vehicles in a vertical manner
http://www.librarything.com/profile/stackpark
http://www.librarything.com/profile/blackmagicproblems
eye hospital / lasik
http://www.librarything.com/profile/sumandeep
henna designs
http://www.librarything.com/profile/mehandidesigns
SEO
http://www.librarything.com/profile/seositehub
Bid Document collection and bid submission on client's behalf
http://www.librarything.com/profile/tendersinfo
parking of vehicles in a vertical manner
http://www.librarything.com/profile/stackpark
133davidgn
http://www.librarything.com/local/place/new+york%2C+ny
NYC events are being crapified. They're getting hit hard, too.
Lorannen, a job for you...
NYC events are being crapified. They're getting hit hard, too.
Lorannen, a job for you...
135rybie2
>133 davidgn: I sent a message to Loranne, too. "Crapified" is right, and it's getting to be a near daily routine.
1362wonderY
>133 davidgn: >135 rybie2: When I post an event, my member name is attached at the end of the notice. Any idea why these are not? Can non-members add events?
137rybie2
>136 2wonderY: I had the same reasonable questions but no answers, and that's why I asked Loranne to step in. I wish I'd asked the questions at the time, but I'll ask now if she'll comment on them here.
138lorannen
Thanks for the reports >133 davidgn: and others, and to rybie and davidgn for the messages! I'm asking Tim what's up with not being able to see member names on events. I'm wondering if it's not because the accounts that created these events have already been flagged down as spam at this point. I'll keep an eye out for the next ones, and see what I can find out there.
I'm also talking with Tim about whether there's a faster, more effective way to combat these.
I think I've got them all cleaned up... for now.
I'm also talking with Tim about whether there's a faster, more effective way to combat these.
I think I've got them all cleaned up... for now.
139Taphophile13
enthusiastic author, second time
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224515
ETA: I left another reminder for her.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224515
ETA: I left another reminder for her.
140davidgn
>138 lorannen: I'm suspecting it's a case of legit existing events being edited into crap -- which would also mean that good events data is being destroyed. So, not only a question of tracking user-creators, but user-editors of events...
142davidgn
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224533
http://www.librarything.com/profile/gfbvysmithh085
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224531
http://www.librarything.com/profile/jniuhwilliams
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224528
http://www.librarything.com/profile/bggysmithh085
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224527
http://www.librarything.com/profile/cvddfwilliams
http://www.librarything.com/venue/101743/180
http://www.librarything.com/venue/101744/180
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ionpenningsheld
http://www.librarything.com/profile/gfbvysmithh085
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224531
http://www.librarything.com/profile/jniuhwilliams
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224528
http://www.librarything.com/profile/bggysmithh085
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224527
http://www.librarything.com/profile/cvddfwilliams
http://www.librarything.com/venue/101743/180
http://www.librarything.com/venue/101744/180
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ionpenningsheld
143lorannen
>140 davidgn: A very good point. Thank you.
144Marissa_Doyle
Author spam: http://www.librarything.com/topic/224556
profile: http://www.librarything.com/profile/JDGerman
profile: http://www.librarything.com/profile/JDGerman
147Taphophile13
Is it time to flag the author as well?
148MarthaJeanne
He seems to have put them up one after the other. I'd let him go this time.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224561 still needs one more flag.
ETA, he's got RIP next to his name now.
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224561 still needs one more flag.
ETA, he's got RIP next to his name now.
149Lyndatrue
>148 MarthaJeanne: et al. I read through his bio, and noted the groups he'd joined. I think he may have done the self-promoting before, considering when he joined, and the comment to himself, from himself. I'd have flagged him, myself (although I didn't).
150MarthaJeanne
I think once you have a certain number of flagged posts you get buried whether or not your profile is flagged.
There is no record of him spamming in February.
There is no record of him spamming in February.
151gilroy
So then putting a comment on these profiles may mean nothing if they are automatically getting suspended...
152Taphophile13
>151 gilroy: If they don't read them and change their ways, or stick around to see what the site is about, then no, the comments don't help. If the author actually intends to engage with people here, or at least not get negative attention, comments can help.
153lilithcat
>152 Taphophile13:
I'm thinking that >151 gilroy:'s point is that if the flags on the posts get the person suspended, they don't have a chance to take the comments to heart.
I'm thinking that >151 gilroy:'s point is that if the flags on the posts get the person suspended, they don't have a chance to take the comments to heart.
154Mr.Durick
http://www.librarything.com/groups/clarkq207634573clark
http://www.librarything.com/profile/zhangwujing
I'm not sure of these but convinced enough that I've flagged them.
Robert
http://www.librarything.com/profile/zhangwujing
I'm not sure of these but convinced enough that I've flagged them.
Robert
155MarthaJeanne
He has also posted at https://www.librarything.com/topic/224581
156Collectorator
Questo membro è stato sospeso dal sito.
157davidgn
This same venue spam from the same SUSPENDED member is coming back AGAIN!
http://www.librarything.com/venue/101979/180 etc, etc
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ionpenningsheld
ETA: It's already been (auto?)-archived. Is this a diagnostic move of some sort?
http://www.librarything.com/venue/101979/180 etc, etc
http://www.librarything.com/profile/ionpenningsheld
ETA: It's already been (auto?)-archived. Is this a diagnostic move of some sort?
163davidgn
http://www.librarything.com/profile/fuerkang
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224643
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224644 ...
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224645 ...
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224646 ...
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224647 ...
and working backwards through the threads with spam replies to spam...
(LOL! Spammer spams in Spam Fighters!)
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224643
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224644 ...
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224645 ...
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224646 ...
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224647 ...
and working backwards through the threads with spam replies to spam...
(LOL! Spammer spams in Spam Fighters!)
164bernsad
http://www.librarything.com/profile/GATECOACHING
This one is leaving spam in various CK fields like the Haiku.
This one is leaving spam in various CK fields like the Haiku.
165lilithcat
Don't know if this person is the author in disguise, a friend or publicist, or an honest fan, but she's posting in multiple forums advertising the books (which are the only ones she has catalogued):
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224663#
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224664#
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224662#5612309
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Amber.Fayez
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224663#
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224664#
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224662#5612309
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Amber.Fayez
166Lyndatrue
>165 lilithcat: I was about to deliver the death blow to one of those posts, but I needed to leave a comment on her profile first, which I've done. I doubt strongly about the honest fan.
Please remember folks, don't flag the author (although a couple more posts will make that a done deal, in any case, it seems).
ETA: Only the last post is there, still (probably because it's one of those join to post groups). Note there've been responses to it.
Extra profile, noted here for the sake of completion.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/HEugeneWrites
I'm just so cynical. Not wrong, though. I also left a comment on that profile.
Please remember folks, don't flag the author (although a couple more posts will make that a done deal, in any case, it seems).
ETA: Only the last post is there, still (probably because it's one of those join to post groups). Note there've been responses to it.
Extra profile, noted here for the sake of completion.
http://www.librarything.com/profile/HEugeneWrites
I'm just so cynical. Not wrong, though. I also left a comment on that profile.
167davidgn
http://www.librarything.com/profile/knight7118
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224680
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224681
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224682
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224683
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224684
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224685
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224686
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224687
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224688
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224689
http://www.librarything.com/profile/wangbao
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224680
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224681
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224682
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224683
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224684
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224685
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224686
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224687
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224688
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224689
http://www.librarything.com/profile/wangbao
168Taphophile13
a whole bunch of them
http://www.librarything.com/profile/weiruyun
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224697#
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224699
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224698
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224696
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224691
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224695
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224694
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224693
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224692
http://www.librarything.com/profile/weiruyun
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224697#
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224699
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224698
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224696
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224691
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224695
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224694
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224693
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224692
170.Monkey.
>166 Lyndatrue: They are Shelfari/Leafmarks refugees, who are used to author spam and also, apparently, quite trusting and actually believe that to be a real post.
171davidgn
https://www.librarything.com/profile/knight7158
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224710
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224711
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224712
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224713
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224714
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224715
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224716
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224710
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224711
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224712
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224713
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224714
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224715
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224716
172Collectorator
Questo membro è stato sospeso dal sito.
173davidgn
>172 Collectorator: Aww, man. And I thought we were the only ones getting the weiruyung spam love! *pouts*
174Collectorator
Questo membro è stato sospeso dal sito.
175MarthaJeanne
The latest batch that the computer caught bothers me. http://www.librarything.com/profile/etrainer is an active long time member, but the posts are obvious spam.
Oh, I see. He answered the spam.
Oh, I see. He answered the spam.
176davidgn
Right. I was going to post that before someone else did. I had the same spit-take moment.
177davidgn
https://www.librarything.com/profile/zhumei5
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224727
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224726
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224725
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224724
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224723
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224722
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224728
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224727
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224726
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224725
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224724
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224723
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224722
https://www.librarything.com/topic/224728
178MarthaJeanne
>177 davidgn: Those are gone now, but the profile is still active.
179davidgn
>175 MarthaJeanne: >176 davidgn: ...and I just had a "hmm, what does that button do?" moment on those threads. I found out: apparently I sprung them from the automatic spam trap to clutter up Talk. *sigh* Sorry.
180MarthaJeanne
>179 davidgn: Yes, that's the life saving ring, for those cases where the computer goofed. Now you know what to do in such a case. And, yes, it does happen. Rarely, but I have seen it.
181davidgn
>180 MarthaJeanne: And what's more, it doesn't have a confirmation step, or an undo option. How charming! :-p
182MarthaJeanne
That page is only visible to members of this group, and we are supposed to know what we are doing.
184Lyndatrue
>179 davidgn: That's okay. I just posted on one of the threads to someone who'd replied to one of them (asking him not to do that), and then did a forehead slap, and remembered that I wasn't helping. I went to do a comment on his profile, and noted the length of the profile, and was astonished that he needed to be told (and that someone else had already done so).
Everyone makes mistakes. I require coffee to start up brain cells, myself, and have been known to make mistakes beforehand. Like this morning, just now.
Everyone makes mistakes. I require coffee to start up brain cells, myself, and have been known to make mistakes beforehand. Like this morning, just now.
185lilithcat
>184 Lyndatrue:
I just posted on one of the threads to someone who'd replied to one of them (asking him not to do that), and then did a forehead slap, and remembered that I wasn't helping.
I've done that, figuring the damage was done, but then realized that my new post bumped the thread up. Defintely a "duuuuhhh" moment!
I just posted on one of the threads to someone who'd replied to one of them (asking him not to do that), and then did a forehead slap, and remembered that I wasn't helping.
I've done that, figuring the damage was done, but then realized that my new post bumped the thread up. Defintely a "duuuuhhh" moment!
186.Monkey.
Lol yeah, I was about to do the same thing for that reason also, then went -wait but this will bump it- and went to the profile instead.
187Taphophile13
Your World of Tea
http://www.librarything.com/profile/TeaDuniya
http://www.librarything.com/profile/TeaDuniya
188Taphophile13
hospitality management
http://www.librarything.com/profile/SheilaRaheja
banquet hall
http://www.librarything.com/profile/hamaraevent
http://www.librarything.com/profile/SheilaRaheja
banquet hall
http://www.librarything.com/profile/hamaraevent
189davidgn
http://www.librarything.com/profile/zhaoyong
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224775
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224776
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224777
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224778
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224779
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224780
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224781
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224782
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224783
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224784
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224785
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224786
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224775
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224776
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224777
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224778
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224779
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224780
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224781
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224782
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224783
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224784
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224785
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224786
190davidgn
http://www.librarything.com/profile/wanhaihan
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224774
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224773
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224787
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224788
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224789
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224790
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224791
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224792
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224793
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224795
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224796
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224797
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224798
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224799
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224800
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224801
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224802
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224803
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224804
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224805
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224806
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224807
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224808
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224809
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224810
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224811
He got up to 852, but he's gone.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224774
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224773
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224787
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224788
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224789
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224790
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224791
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224792
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224793
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224795
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224796
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224797
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224798
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224799
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224800
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224801
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224802
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224803
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224804
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224805
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224806
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224807
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224808
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224809
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224810
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224811
He got up to 852, but he's gone.
191davidgn
http://www.librarything.com/profile/agwehe
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224853
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224854
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224855
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224856
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224857
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224858
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224859
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224860
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224861
got 'im.
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224853
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224854
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224855
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224856
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224857
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224858
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224859
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224860
http://www.librarything.com/topic/224861
got 'im.
197MarthaJeanne
https://www.librarything.com/groups/krdyshelly
https://www.librarything.com/profile/krdyshelly
That you may quite simply view this type of state in any of your existence, work and social spheres where we have artificially coordinated several common aspects to swimsuit our preferences and comforts. ----- same also certainly pertains to our physical nation-states wherein by way of fitness measures we work our bodies to grow into healthy muscle portions.
https://www.librarything.com/profile/krdyshelly
That you may quite simply view this type of state in any of your existence, work and social spheres where we have artificially coordinated several common aspects to swimsuit our preferences and comforts. ----- same also certainly pertains to our physical nation-states wherein by way of fitness measures we work our bodies to grow into healthy muscle portions.
198jnwelch
Crazy insulting posts: https://www.librarything.com/topic/221096#5616851
199Lyndatrue
>198 jnwelch: Interesting. It's pretty rude, yes, but spam is different. For the sake of others in the group, here's the profile:
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Inification
Please note that most of the posts from this account (apparently female) speak from a male perspective. jnwelch, you might want to alert staff (specifically lorannen) about that thread, and all, but it's ugly, and certainly deserving of flagging the comments. I never understand why someone has the need to spew such anger, but then, I lead a sheltered life (okay, I lead a hermit's life; same thing).
https://www.librarything.com/profile/Inification
Please note that most of the posts from this account (apparently female) speak from a male perspective. jnwelch, you might want to alert staff (specifically lorannen) about that thread, and all, but it's ugly, and certainly deserving of flagging the comments. I never understand why someone has the need to spew such anger, but then, I lead a sheltered life (okay, I lead a hermit's life; same thing).
200lorannen
>199 Lyndatrue: Thanks! We're on it.
201gilroy
>199 Lyndatrue: Sad part was they responded and kept feeding the troll
202Lyndatrue
>201 gilroy: Yeah, I saw that. It's why I made the suggestion I did. Sometimes you just have to invoke those who can effect a repair, without being emotionally involved.
I do not, EVER, understand the need for people spew hate, but I suppose it's best that I don't understand it. Still a sad business, all around.
I do not, EVER, understand the need for people spew hate, but I suppose it's best that I don't understand it. Still a sad business, all around.
204davidgn
Mm-kay, new thread.
205lorax
>201 gilroy:
Note: I have no looked at the thread in question. This week in particular I do not have the energy to read the words of haters.
Tim has, in violation of conventional wisdom everywhere else online, specifically suggested that we feed the trolls on LT, in the hopes that they will cross the line from insulting all (women, gays, black people, etc.) to specifically insulting an individual by name, at which point we can flag them.
Note: I have no looked at the thread in question. This week in particular I do not have the energy to read the words of haters.
Tim has, in violation of conventional wisdom everywhere else online, specifically suggested that we feed the trolls on LT, in the hopes that they will cross the line from insulting all (women, gays, black people, etc.) to specifically insulting an individual by name, at which point we can flag them.
206jnwelch
>199 Lyndatrue: Thanks. I had a surprisingly hard time finding a place on LT to report these rude posts. I'll try Lorannen. Seems like reporting something like this should be easier.
Oh, I see in >200 lorannen: that they're on it.
Oh, I see in >200 lorannen: that they're on it.
207Mr.Durick
http://www.librarything.com/groups/bleylcarpetsblinds
http://www.librarything.com/profile/carpetandblinds
Accidentally put it here first. Also posted to the new thread.
Robert
http://www.librarything.com/profile/carpetandblinds
Accidentally put it here first. Also posted to the new thread.
Robert
Questa conversazione è stata continuata da Spam reporting thread #50.
