How to compare the realistic face of a comic character with photography?

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How to compare the realistic face of a comic character with photography?

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1Artymedon
Modificato: Mag 9, 2016, 8:39 pm

This post is inspired by the reading of Enrique Garcia's Cuban Cinema after the Cold War. This small book is published by McFarland in NC. Its Chapter 5 titled Idealogy: Realism & Fantasy and the Special Period reviews Cuban animation and compares it with the Art of Disney and how Eisenstein admired the esthetics of Disney. It also quotes Scott McCloud in his comments over how abstract simplicity compares with photography that captures reality while a Comic drawing renders the essence of the image. Scott McCloud

2apokoliptian
Mag 9, 2016, 9:29 pm

There are some good portraiers in comics (some of them demands it, like the movie and series adaptations as in Star Trek, Star Wars, etc), but in the 70's (mainly in Marvel) there are some faces that really needed subtitles in order to identify the person portraied.

3DanieXJ
Mag 12, 2016, 6:58 pm

>2 apokoliptian: Yes. I don't mind if the faces aren't perfect reproductions of humans, but, when I can't tell the difference between Bruce, Clark, Jason, Dick, (and other than the height) from Damian also, that pisses me off. So, I think there are still a few artists who fall into this trap too.

4AnnieMod
Mag 12, 2016, 7:05 pm

>2 apokoliptian:

Well - that's where they made the costumes so different from each other. Or the hair color. Or the hair cut. :) On the other hand I grew up with The Three Fools (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Three_Fools) whose only difference was the color of their trousers. The fact that half the TVs in the country until mid-90s were black and white made that even more problematic. But then it did not really matter who is who anyway. So Marvel's similarities did not register that much (although with the current black and white reprints in the Essential line, sometimes it is amusing to try to figure out who is who.

5apokoliptian
Modificato: Mag 13, 2016, 11:09 pm

>3 DanieXJ:
For a recent experience: I like very much Rags Morales dynamics and storytelling, but check Identity Crisis. There are some scenes, like when the Atom is talking to Hawkman without costume, that you cannot tell who is who.
That's a real identity crisis. :)

6apokoliptian
Modificato: Mag 13, 2016, 11:12 pm

>4 AnnieMod:
When I cited Marvel 70's, I was talking about celebrities depicted in comics like Ronald Reagan, Jimmy Carter or Tom Wolfe.
But I agree that some artists did lack consistency on the faces of comic characters.

7AnnieMod
Mag 12, 2016, 11:36 pm

>6 apokoliptian:

Ah... by the time I read those, they were all unknown to me anyway so even if they were correctly drawn, I am not sure I would have recognized them anyway. :) So did not think of your statement in this light.

8Artymedon
Mag 16, 2016, 9:40 pm

>6 apokoliptian: apokoliptian:

Another celebrity is Jean-Paul Belmondo who starred in "Breathless" the Iconic movie of Jean-Luc Godard. Moebius was searching for a distinct face for his hero Lieutenant Blueberry and gave him the then unmistakable boxer nose of the actor. Yet also known for his wonderful smile, Belmondo/Blueberry carries this smile with the unbearable lightness of being through the first volumes that narrate the Apache wars of the 1880s in the American West. The serie that sold millions of album obtained a 1992 Harvey Award.

9apokoliptian
Mag 17, 2016, 5:22 pm

>8 Artymedon:
That is a good example. Blueberry is a total classic.
Another good example of good depiction is Nick Fury as Samuel L. Jackson on Ultimates by Bryan Hitch. Beyond a good depiction, it earned the model a role in Marvel Movies and TV series.

10apokoliptian
Modificato: Mag 18, 2016, 10:52 pm

How could we discuss european western comics and do not talk about Ken Parker by Ivo Milazzo and Giancarlo Berardi? The clever cowboy is finely modeled after Robert Redford, with imediate recognition.

11Artymedon
Modificato: Giu 27, 2016, 7:18 am

Ken Parker Eccolo!! Bravo!! In Bravo for Adventure Alex Toth models his Hollywood stunt pilot after Errol Flynn...