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1LesMiserables
Ott 11, 2014, 1:34 am

I'm currently interested in seeing what FS have offered in the line of specifically Christian publications.

Has anyone compiled a genre spreadsheet that might share?

I only have the following..

The Consolation of Philosophy

2scholasticus
Ott 11, 2014, 1:52 am

No spreadsheet here, but a few of them off the top of my head are:

- The Imitation of Christ (Thomas Kempis)
- Augustine's City of God
- Eusebius' History of the Church
- Bede's Ecclesiastical History
- Pascal's Pensees
- Margery Kempe's autobiography
- Eamon Duffy's book on the history of the papacy
- various histories of the Crusades (from Latin sources, since that's what you're looking for

Are you more interested in religious publications (e.g. Pascal, Augustine, Kempis, &c), histories and biographies (Kempe, primary accounts of the Crusades from the perspective of the Latin West, &c), or general books discussing Christianity (MacCullouch's magisterial Reformation, &c)?

3TabbyTom
Ott 11, 2014, 4:38 am

John Bunyan: Pilgrim's Progress
The Book of Common Prayer

4LesMiserables
Ott 11, 2014, 5:59 am

> 2

More the first two of the three, thanks.

Does anyone know if Folio ever produced a Vulgate Bible and or Douay-Rheims?

The first 5 in your list look likely to land on my shelves at some point.

I'm interested also in the Crusade works, what were those?

5UK_History_Fan
Ott 11, 2014, 6:12 am

> 4
Well there is Steve Runciman's 3-volume History of the Crusades which is practically the standard modern treatment. Folio once offered this as a joining offer so the set is ubiquitous and relatively cheap. Then there is the older Eyewitness History of the Crusades in 4 volumes, beautifully bound in white and gold, offering up contemporary accounts from various crusades.

I'm sure there are others, but those would be my starting point.

6groeng
Modificato: Ott 11, 2014, 9:05 am

>5 UK_History_Fan:

Two more recent volumes I can recommend:

Steven Runciman, The Fall of Constantinople, 1453
Amin Maalouf, The Crusades through Arab Eyes

Of course there is also much of interest on this topic in John Julius Norwich's superb Byzantium trilogy.

All beautifully done by the FS.

ETA: If the mole is around, please relay that I (and I am sure others) wouldn't mind seeing Christopher Tyerman's God's War: A New History of the Crusades in FS garb....

7dbshee
Ott 11, 2014, 9:09 am

The Authentic Gospel of Jesus by Geza Vermes
Augustine- Confessions

8brother_salvatore
Ott 11, 2014, 11:26 am

The Divine Comedy

9galford83
Ott 11, 2014, 11:27 am

The Screwtape Letters. It's one of my favorite Folio Society productions.

10scholasticus
Ott 11, 2014, 12:33 pm

>4 LesMiserables:

As far as I know, FS, never produced the Vulgate or D-R, which is a pity. I can understand why they didn't produce the Vulgate, at least - not many people can read it nowadays, sadly. As for the D-R, I still hold out hope that one day they'll produce that book; after all, they've produced the KJV and the Apocrypha, so why not go that extra step and produce the complete thing, hmm?

If you want a pretty authoritative edition of the Vulgate, you can't go wrong with the Weber-Gryson edition, which is currently in its fifth edition. Amazon usually sells it, as does Book Depository... http://www.amazon.com/Biblia-Vulgata-Editio-quinta-Edition/dp/3438053039

Another Crusades title is Eyewitness History to the Crusades, which is four vols.

Some more Christian titles:
- Erasmus' Moriae Encomium from the 70s, although it sounds like FS is reprinting this title next week???
- The Dead Sea Scrolls
- The Gnostic Gospels
- Religion and the Decline of Magic (not so much Christian as a discussion of how Christianity gradually evolved in England as a result of the Reformation and the events of the 16th and 17th centuries)
- Trial of the Templars
- Frank Barlow's biography of St Thomas Becket
- edited collection of contemporary accounts of Becket's martyrdom (I can't find the dang book on my shelves right now, but the book's thin and was done up in the late 60s, early 70s)
- Rise and Fall of the Medieval Monastery
- Ladurie's Montaillou (firsthand accounts of how Catharism infected this tiny French village near the border with Spain; the inquisitor was Fournier, the future Benedict XII at Avignon)
- If you feel rich, the Hereford World Map is a good option; the map is designed from a Christian worldview, so you really get a lot on how medieval Christianity perceived the world
- Songs of the Wandering Scholars (Latin with facing translations of poems, &c composed by medieval scholars and priests)
- Abelard and Heloise

>7 dbshee:

I didn't realise FS had done the Confessions - shall have to look that up! Thanks!

11BINDINGSTHATLAST
Ott 11, 2014, 12:44 pm

As Far as I know they did produce a KJV Bible in the last few years, and of course their LE edition.

12boldface
Modificato: Ott 11, 2014, 3:39 pm

>4 LesMiserables: “Does anyone know if Folio ever produced a Vulgate Bible and or Douay-Rheims?”

As scholasticus says, there's no Vulgate or Douay-Rheims. I myself would like to see a Coverdale (although the Coverdale Psalms are largely intact within the pages of the Book of Common Prayer), and, preferably in facsimile, a Geneva Bible, incorporating those controversial notes deliberately left out by King James’s revisers. However, FS have published various other editions over the years.

Looking at my own collection, for example, there's the 2-volume reader's edition (1957-8; reprinted 1970, 1997 & 1999 in various bindings). It’s called a ‘readers’ edition’ because it’s printed like a modern book, in paragraphs and in a single column, and without any chapter or verse numbers, references or notes, in the text. There's a key at the end, however, which gives all this information in some detail. The title is The Bible Designed to be Read as Literature and it’s a reprint of an earlier non-Folio publication—there's an introduction by Laurence Binyon. Be aware, though, it is NOT a complete text, although it includes most of the Bible you would actually want to read, omitting things like the genealogies. Most of the text is that of the King James Version (KJV, 1611), but the more poetical books (Proverbs, Job, Ecclesiastes, and the Song of Solomon) follow the slightly more accurate Revised Version (RV) of 1881 (NT) and 1885 (OT) . There are also a few selections from the Apocrypha. The RV, by the way, is very, very similar to the KJV. The books are illustrated with colour plates of old master paintings with biblical subjects.
See my full descriptions at
http://www.librarything.com/work/1222947/details/61040937 (volume I); and
http://www.librarything.com/work/1222947/details/61040982 (volume II).

Staying with the KJV, FS published The Bible in 2008 (second impression, 2011), which is a reprint of The New Cambridge Paragraph Bible published by CUP in 2005. As its name suggests, this is also in paragraphs and printed in a single column with the marginal notes of the 1611 translators. The chapter and verse numbers are included for reference. For this edition, the editor, David Norton, examined all the records left by the revisers, as well as the early printings, and produced a text which is arguably more accurate and more in line with the revisers’ intentions than the published book of 1611. The FS edition uses the CUP setting, but incorporates at least one minor typographical change (NOT a corrected misprint) which I have noted in an asterisked paragraph in my catalogue at http://www.librarything.com/work/13397189/details/93080433. It should be noted, however, that the casual lay reader (in the secular sense!) will not be unduly disturbed by Norton’s subtle alterations to what has been anyway a much altered text over the years.
FS uses a smooth cream paper (Thin Opaque), pleasant to the touch, although perhaps not as opaque as some might wish. Nevertheless, it’s a pleasing, if rather heavy volume.

There are a couple of other FS volumes of individual books of the Bible. I don’t have these so can’t comment beyond what Folio 60 tells us:

The Book of Psalms, written out by Helen E. Hinckley, 1952 (Folio 60, no. 52), reproduces her calligraphic text. There is no further embellishment because, as Folio 60 observes, Charles Ede “decided it was an impossible text to illustrate, since any artwork would have to be ‘completely banal’ in order not to run the risk of giving offence.”(!)

The Song of Songs, copper engravings by Ru van Rossem, 1967 (Folio 60, no. 235); reprinted 1968; reset in a new edition, 1972 (Folio 60, no. 322.5). Folio 60 warns that the first impression contained two misprints which were corrected in the 1968 and subsequent edition.
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I will just add, for anyone who makes it this far, that I typed out most of the above well over an hour ago, at which point my computer suddenly and inexplicably decided to refresh the page, leaving me with just three lines of uncorrected text which I had emailed to myself earlier when changing from iPad to laptop. I hate technology!

13Stephan68
Ott 11, 2014, 2:45 pm

Facsimiles of Tyndale, Coverdale, Geneva and 1611 KJV and others can be found here:

http://www.greatsite.com/facsimile-reproductions/index.html

However I have never handled any of these facsimiles and I am not sure about the quality of the reproduction.

14boldface
Ott 11, 2014, 3:42 pm

>13 Stephan68:

Thanks. That's worth exploring.

By the way, I should have mentioned in my post #12 above that the New Cambridge Paragraph Bible, both CUP 2005 and FS 2008 contain the KJV revisers' preface, The Translators to the Reader. This is omitted in most modern editions.

15groeng
Ott 11, 2014, 3:46 pm

>13 Stephan68:

Wow. Absolutely beautiful. Would love to visit that bookshop!

16wcarter
Ott 11, 2014, 6:36 pm

And don't forget the very different Holkham Bible facsimile.

17d-b
Ott 11, 2014, 7:43 pm

Kierkegaard: Fear and Trembling

18Stephan68
Ott 12, 2014, 5:25 am

I'd like to add the there volume Pagans and Christians by Robin Lane Fox to the list.

19Chris_El
Ott 12, 2014, 11:16 am

I have the 4 volume set of The Eyewitness History of the Crusades and enjoyed it. It's hard to beat the authenticity of the story by the people who were there.

Outside of Folio (Folio ought to look into printing this) God's Battalions: The Case for the Crusades, by agnostic Berkly professor Rodney Stark, is one of the best books on the crusades I've read in ages. I mention his agnosticism merely to point out he has no religious purpose in taking a different/positive look at the Crusades. He points out several perspectives modern historians embrace that are not supported well once you look into the historical data and really focuses on what the Crusades meant to the people participating.

20garyjbp
Ott 12, 2014, 2:11 pm

Four books which haven't been mentioned:

The 1993 Presentation Volume

Bestiary,

an English version of the recent

Liber Bestiarum,

an LE facsimile.

Then there is what might have been the original LE facsimile:

The Benedictional of St Aethelwold.

and finally, since people are including Old Testament works:

The Luttrell Psalter.

21scholasticus
Ott 12, 2014, 2:13 pm

There's also the Fitzwilliam Book of Hours and the Getty Apocalypse.

22d-b
Ott 12, 2014, 4:43 pm

I'd like to see the Summa Theologica

23LesMiserables
Ott 12, 2014, 6:24 pm

22

Of course.

There are however some excellent editions out there already.

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/1623400147/ref=as_li_tf_il?ie=UTF8&camp=178...

from

http://www.theaquinasinstitute.org/in-print/

But for the moment I shall have to be content with my kindle edition.

24d-b
Ott 12, 2014, 9:07 pm

Hrrrm... Very nice. I have the Christian Classics edition (linked). It is very poor quality. The inner margins are so close to the spine it is near impossible to read.

I need to pick up the Aquinas Institute edition. It looks amazing! Thanks for the link LesMis.

http://www.amazon.com/Summa-Theologica-Thomas-Aquinas-Volumes/dp/0870610635

25cpg
Ott 12, 2014, 9:19 pm

>19 Chris_El:

From Wikipedia: "In a 2007 interview, after accepting an appointment at Baylor University, Stark indicated that his self-understanding had changed and that he could now be described as an 'independent Christian.'"

26David_E
Ott 13, 2014, 8:22 am

Bede History of the English Church and People.

Also, covering the less than glorious episodes in Christian history;Henry Kamen's "The Spanish Inquisition", Desmond Seward "The Monks of War" and Malcolm Barber "The Trial of the Templars"

27podaniel
Ott 13, 2014, 9:17 am

Two works by John Donne:

No Man is an Island: A Selection from the Prose of John Donne

John Donne: The Complete English Poems

28BINDINGSTHATLAST
Ott 13, 2014, 10:15 am

23 lesmis, how well are those editions bound?

29jroger1
Ott 13, 2014, 2:22 pm

>10 scholasticus:

Easton Press just announced a leather-bound edition of the D-R Bible.

http://www.eastonpress.com/books/prod/FA6/THE-HOLY-BIBLE--DOUAY-RHEIMS-TRANSLATI...

30LesMiserables
Ott 13, 2014, 10:02 pm

28

I have no idea. I do not, unfortunately, own these editions (yet).

Nonetheless, all the amazon reviews either do not mention any issues with the binding (which is good) or they mention positive things about the binding (which is very good).

31Chris_El
Ott 15, 2014, 4:18 pm

Thanks for that, I hadn't realized his views had evolved to that point.

32Andrew-Constantine
Ott 17, 2014, 2:26 pm

I quote from a wonderful book by Irene Collins called 'Jane Austen The Parson's Daughter' in which she says in her concluding paragraph:

... Richard Whateley (later Archbishop of Dublin) who was one of the earliest scholars to review Jane Austen's novels, perceived them at once to be 'evidently' the work of 'a Christian writer.'

So maybe the works of Jane Austen should be added to the FS Christian Genre?

33LesMiserables
Ott 27, 2014, 3:57 am

32

Well I don't know. If I wanted to include Christian writers I would have certainly included Tolkien's Folio works.

34terebinth
Ott 27, 2014, 7:59 am

>32 Andrew-Constantine:,33

Yes, "'evidently' the work of 'a Christian writer'" could surely be applied to an overwhelming majority at least of pre-20th century European and American novels.

As to more specifically Christian content, the nicely presented (matching Burton's Anatomy of Melancholy) The Voyce of the World, a selection from Sir Thomas Browne, would I think warrant inclusion in a list.

35LesMiserables
Ott 27, 2014, 8:04 am

34

Two of which I own but have to my shame have not perused never mind consumed.

36Chris_El
Ott 27, 2014, 10:58 am

C.S. Lewis's The Screwtape Letters by FS could probably be listed under this category though much less serious than most selections so far.

Chesterson's Father Brown and The Chronicles of Narnia have heavy religious influence but I'm not sure they are intended to be religious works while the Screwtape Letters strike me as religious satire well suited for inclusion.

37d-b
Nov 23, 2014, 6:03 pm

I just purchased the Aquinas Institute Summa from amazon.com. Very excited for it to arrive.

38LesMiserables
Nov 23, 2014, 6:41 pm

37

Beautiful choice. May God inspire you to read it!

39scholasticus
Nov 23, 2014, 9:20 pm

>37 d-b:

Let us know how it is! Is this the Leonine and/or the Dominican Province translation?

40d-b
Nov 23, 2014, 9:28 pm

It is a revised and edited version of the Dominican translation.

41LesMiserables
Gen 5, 2015, 5:34 pm

d-b

What year is the Edited translation?

42LesMiserables
Modificato: Gen 5, 2015, 5:38 pm

This is a nice DR which I have just purchased with outstanding and detailed commentary.

http://www.amazon.com/DOUAY-RHEIMS-HAYDOCK-BIBLE-HARDBACK-EDITION/dp/B003C268XG

43lechacal
Lug 31, 2015, 10:25 pm

Can those who have Eusebius' History of the Church attest to the binding and the translation? If anyone could post pictures that would also be amazing.

Thanks

44d-b
Ago 1, 2015, 1:44 am

>41 LesMiserables:

LesMis, sorry for the late reply. The Aquinas Institute edition of the Summa was published in 2012. I cannot overemphasise how impressive this edition is. Nicely translated, heavy paper and beautifully bound. Plus, the Institute is slowly releasing Aquinas entire works, so it is better to start collecting the set earlier rather than later.

>43 lechacal:

The Folio Eusebius is amazing. The translation is really good and the accompanying art stills are well thought out. I also find the lacquered cloth binding and the neat picture on the front cover very appealing. I purchased my copy at full price and don't regret it.

45LesMiserables
Ago 1, 2015, 10:39 pm

44
Enabled!

46d-b
Modificato: Ago 2, 2015, 1:33 am

Here are some pictures of Aquinas' Summa and the Folio Eusebius






















47LesMiserables
Ago 2, 2015, 2:10 am

46

Brilliant. Thanks.

48lechacal
Ago 2, 2015, 7:44 am

d-b thank you, it looks beautiful. Perhaps I will purchase it for myself in the near future.

49LesMiserables
Ago 2, 2015, 8:31 pm

I have just acquired the Eusebius volume in the Sale. Very nice indeed.

50ultrarightist
Ago 3, 2015, 1:32 pm

>46 d-b: Is the Aquinas set bound in genuine leather?

51d-b
Ago 3, 2015, 4:29 pm

52lechacal
Ott 23, 2016, 10:29 am

Now that the Christmas season is coming up. Does anyone have any recommended readings?

I've read The History of the Church, The Imitation of Christ, The Book of Common Prayer

I was thinking of reading The Divine Comedy

53LesMiserables
Modificato: Ott 23, 2016, 4:53 pm

>52 lechacal:
I was thinking of reading The Divine Comedy
Great read, I'm onto Purgatorio in my reading of the Musa translation. I read the Sayers translation earlier in the year. A great read indeed.

I think St. Augustine's Confessions are quite moving and required reading for Christians.

54lechacal
Ott 23, 2016, 9:45 pm

>53 LesMiserables: I started Inferno today. I have read Confessions and am half way through City of God by St. Augustine. I enjoyed Confessions a lot, but am having trouble with City of God.

I just ordered the FS publication of The Dead Sea Scrolls today to add to my list of Christian books to read before Christmas. I am hoping to complete The Divine Comedy and The Dead Sea Scrolls along with one other book before Christmas. Perhaps The Dolorous Passion of Our Lord Jesus Christ

55chrisrsprague
Ott 23, 2016, 11:09 pm

>54 lechacal: surely FS has never published Emmerich?

56lechacal
Ott 24, 2016, 8:19 am

>55 chrisrsprague: No, unfortunately they have not. This would be a Barnes & Noble paperback I am referring to. Maybe one day they will though

57LesMiserables
Gen 27, 2017, 10:39 pm

Can anyone give any information on the FS ed. of The Imitation of Christ. It's not in F60.

My preference is for Challoner translation and I believe this is the Hoskins of which I have no knowledge of.

59Caput_Lupinum
Feb 15, 2021, 9:29 am

I thought I'd update this old thread with a few more of the FS's Christianity-related offerings:

- Revelations of Divine Love by Julian of Norwich

- A History of God by Karen Armstrong

- The Four Gospels (illustrated by Eric Gill)

60folio_books
Feb 15, 2021, 9:41 am

>59 Caput_Lupinum: I thought I'd update this old thread with a few more of the FS's Christianity-related offerings:

Not to forget the currently-available three-volume History of Christianity by Diairmaid MacCulloch.

61Caput_Lupinum
Feb 15, 2021, 10:28 am

>60 folio_books: Of course! I'm not sure how I managed to omit that one.

62CLWggg
Feb 15, 2021, 12:22 pm

>59 Caput_Lupinum: There's also The Books of Proverbs, published last year.

63Caput_Lupinum
Feb 15, 2021, 12:34 pm

There are also LE editions of:

- Genesis
- The Song of Songs
- The Book of Jonah

64abysswalker
Feb 15, 2021, 7:21 pm

Several editions of works by Milton perhaps count?

I’d specifically also highlight the Folio Press morning of Christ’s nativity poetry collection.