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1mlfhlibrarian
I live in Croydon, and have done for 30 years. The town made it into the first edition of Crap Towns and has the dubious distinction of having made the second edition Crap Towns Returns too.
http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/Croydon-included-new-Crap-Towns-book/story-19...
Which towns in Britain, if any, should have been included in your opinion? And which are the best towns/cities to live in?
http://www.croydonadvertiser.co.uk/Croydon-included-new-Crap-Towns-book/story-19...
Which towns in Britain, if any, should have been included in your opinion? And which are the best towns/cities to live in?
2Helenliz
I get to visit a lot of towns, as my husband's a bellringer, so I often have to entertain myself for 3 to 4 hours while he's ringing. Sometimes I have a wealth of things to see or do, and tea shops in which to have a nice cuppa and maybe some cake. I don't ask for much, give me an interesting museum, maybe a historic house, a lovely castle, a nice bit of architecture and a tea shop and that'll make my day.
Then there was Trowbridge.
I thought Trowbridge sounded quite nice, but it shut at about 3:30 on a saturday afternoon and has gone down as my nadir. I've told him if he ever goes back, he can go without me.
Then there was Trowbridge.
I thought Trowbridge sounded quite nice, but it shut at about 3:30 on a saturday afternoon and has gone down as my nadir. I've told him if he ever goes back, he can go without me.
3mart1n
I used to live in Croydon. While it has its issues I considered it an improvement over where I grew up, which was Woking. Left when I was 18, have dome my best to spend as little time there since as possible. It's just a tedious sprawl of commuter belt with nothing to recommend it it all. Apart, I suppose, from a good rail link to London. And if the best you can say about somewhere is that it's easy to leave it for somewhere more interesting, then that says it all I reckon.
4mart1n
On the more positive side, I've always rather fancied Exeter, which I've visited a few times but never lived in. A sort of cosy size of city - plenty going on by not too big; handy for nice countryside and seaside. Maybe one day...
5mlfhlibrarian
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Ooh, no - I went there with my daughter when she was sussing out universities, thought it was going to be nice but was very disappointed. She went to York in the end, which is my idea of the perfect city.
3>
I usually tell people 'when you drive south of Croydon you're in lovely countryside', lol
Actually, it used to be better than it was. About 20 years ago they built a cultural centre, with a new library which was state of the art at the time, and the David Lean Cinema. But the library has been dumbed-down, they've made librarians redundant and some of the items in the museum area are being sold off :( Croydon Council doesn't regard the arts as a priority.
Ooh, no - I went there with my daughter when she was sussing out universities, thought it was going to be nice but was very disappointed. She went to York in the end, which is my idea of the perfect city.
3>
I usually tell people 'when you drive south of Croydon you're in lovely countryside', lol
Actually, it used to be better than it was. About 20 years ago they built a cultural centre, with a new library which was state of the art at the time, and the David Lean Cinema. But the library has been dumbed-down, they've made librarians redundant and some of the items in the museum area are being sold off :( Croydon Council doesn't regard the arts as a priority.
6abbottthomas
Croydon has quite a good tram, but if you aren't careful it will take you to New Addington - a fate worse than death.
8C4RO
>7 Booksloth: ... at least has some good curry houses!
I would nominate Northampton as being a bit of an armpit.
I would nominate Northampton as being a bit of an armpit.
9oldstick
I'm sorry but I didn't like Nottingham but maybe I didn't stay long enough. Some towns that were OK look sad now they have empty shops. It's just hard for someone who doesn't live in a place to find their way around sometimes and if you find it difficult to park it makes a bad impression.
Also, the colour of the buildings influences how I feel about a place. There are some towns that might be fine but the architecture is overpowering and mainly black. Red or yellow brick is more welcoming. (or even white or pastel , like some seaside towns.)
Also, the colour of the buildings influences how I feel about a place. There are some towns that might be fine but the architecture is overpowering and mainly black. Red or yellow brick is more welcoming. (or even white or pastel , like some seaside towns.)
10jbbarret
The caption to the photo in the link from #1, "Does this look like a crap town?"
Yes, it does.
And I'm keeping quiet about the best places. But Frome is OK.
As for Hemel Hempstead, if God were going to give the Earth an enema, that's where he'd stick the pipe.
Yes, it does.
And I'm keeping quiet about the best places. But Frome is OK.
As for Hemel Hempstead, if God were going to give the Earth an enema, that's where he'd stick the pipe.
11mlfhlibrarian
6> yes, I love the trams, I'm in danger of becoming one of those old ladies who rides from one end of the route to the other :)
Hmm, New Addington - I'm sure it has its good points, but I can't think of them off hand. And it was home to a notorious child killer until recently :(
Hmm, New Addington - I'm sure it has its good points, but I can't think of them off hand. And it was home to a notorious child killer until recently :(
12mlfhlibrarian
I read recently that the office building in Slough which featured as 'The Office' has been or is about to be demolished. John Betjeman was right about that town.
13abbottthomas
>11 mlfhlibrarian: I am told that, if you look a bit north of east in New Addington, there is no higher ground until you get to the Urals. That may or may not be a good thing.
14LyzzyBee
Tonbridge in Kent should be in there. As in "No, not Tunbridge Wells". I haven't been back for years but I can't think it's improved.
15mlfhlibrarian
abbotthomas, you've really got it in for New Addington, haven't you? :)
It's no worse than any of the 60s estates, really. I know someone who has lived there since it was built, she says they were thrilled to move there from the two-up, two down they'd lived in before, and it felt like they were in the middle of the countryside (NA is a sort of island development surrounded by fields).
Now, have you ever been to Skelmersdale? That is a real eyesore :(
It's no worse than any of the 60s estates, really. I know someone who has lived there since it was built, she says they were thrilled to move there from the two-up, two down they'd lived in before, and it felt like they were in the middle of the countryside (NA is a sort of island development surrounded by fields).
Now, have you ever been to Skelmersdale? That is a real eyesore :(
16abbottthomas
>15 mlfhlibrarian: Skelmersdale in beyond my ken, I'm afraid. It does have a "Heritage" website - http://www.skemheritage.org.uk/videos/selmersdales-yesterdays/ - but I don't think I'll hurry up that way ;-)
17jbbarret
Scunthorpe is a must.
http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/v/lincolnshire/scunthorpe/scunthorpe-steel...
http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/v/lincolnshire/scunthorpe/scunthorpe-steel...
18PossMan
Every town mentioned so far must take heart from the fact that that it must be zillions of time better than the dystopia known as Inverness.
20oldstick
I like Tonbridge - it had all I wanted in a town, the river, the castle, the park,the shops, the station, the theatre, good schools and lovely countryside. What's not to like?
21abbottthomas
I spent some of my formative years in Tonbridge - the one thing not to like was the frequent flooding. They do have an effective flood relief system now.
22LyzzyBee
#20 the pound shops, the lack of a bus service, the lack of anything to do as a teenager, the "cinema" in the Angel Centre ...
#21 Ah yes - that's fine unless you live in certain bits of Hildenborough ...
#21 Ah yes - that's fine unless you live in certain bits of Hildenborough ...
23mlfhlibrarian
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2506917/Best-place-live-UK-Er-Solihull.h...
Don't worry folks, it's been decided - Solihull is the best place to live. And PossMan, Inverness is listed as the 4th worst :)
Don't worry folks, it's been decided - Solihull is the best place to live. And PossMan, Inverness is listed as the 4th worst :)
24jbbarret
Thank goodness for that. Solihull is far enough away for me not to be bothered by pilgrims.
25PossMan
#23 Ah yes — but looking at that link it gets to that position (4th worst) by including Nairn, Moray, Badenoch and Strathspey. Suspect that if these other places were removed from the equation and Inverness had to stand on its own merits then it would move up a place or two.
26darrow
Worst town I ever visited was Cleethorpes. Fish and chip shops and litter everywhere. Avoid.
27jbbarret
Merthyr should get a mention
http://www.ggat.org.uk/cadw/historic_landscape/Merthyr%20Tydfil/Images/Merthyr00...
http://www.ggat.org.uk/cadw/historic_landscape/Merthyr%20Tydfil/Images/Merthyr00...
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