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Blocks to combining that affects large numbers of copies (Sorry, too much love!)

1brightcopy
Modificato: Gen 26, 2013, 2:59 pm

To Get Works Combined Anyway

Post a request to this thread. Please be sure to include links to each work you want combined.

For example:
Please combine these two works:
http://www.librarything.com/work/5061284
http://www.librarything.com/work/11847113
If it's not obvious that the two works are the same (different title/authors/etc.), it may be helpful if you jot down a few sentences to explain that. But please be sure they really do need to be combined. Keep in mind that different editions with significant textual changes (a original publication versus a later "uncut" version) are treated as different books. Minor changes (like a later version containing a new forward, a new edition with/without illustrations, etc.) do generally belong together in the same work, as do different versions of the same work in different languages.

For help combining works that would affect fewer than 200 copies, please post to the current "Combining/Separating (Please Fix This Book!) Request Thread". This thread can be found in the Combiners! group with this search (a new thread is created each month to prevent it from becoming cumbersome).

The Problem

You cannot easily combine two works if BOTH works contain a large number of copies (currently the limit is 200 copies). For example, if you try to combine The Dark Tower (having over 6,000 copies) with The Dark Tower Boxed Set (Books 1-4) (having over 500 copies) you will receive this error:



In this case, this error prevents you from combining two works that really should not be combined. However, sometimes it does prevent legitimate combinations. Though the message says only LibraryThing staff may combine these books, that's not entirely true. There are ways to finagle it to combine them, but because of the possibility of harm they aren't really broadcast (but if you know enough to ask...)

As such, the previous thread on this topic ended with LibraryThing members volunteering to combine these "too much love" works for other users.

2Felagund
Gen 22, 2012, 4:36 am

Bump (just to make sure this thread gets noticed instead of the older one).

3Waldstein
Apr 8, 2012, 11:39 am

It seems to me that these two works:

http://www.librarything.com/work/2817510

http://www.librarything.com/work/12352800

are clearly the same one and should be combined. Neither seems to refer to the movie, a common enough problem in this case.

It would be cool if somebody who has the power actually combine the fellows.

4Collectorator
Apr 8, 2012, 12:17 pm

Questo membro è stato sospeso dal sito.

5Waldstein
Apr 9, 2012, 2:28 pm

Thanks a lot - for the combining; don't know who wrote the gem.

6DLSmithies
Apr 14, 2012, 2:49 pm

7brightcopy
Apr 14, 2012, 2:54 pm

#6 by DLSmithies> Done!

8spiphany
Apr 19, 2012, 5:24 pm

I'm getting the "too much love" message for these two works, which appear to be the same:
(Sophocles' Oedipus Cycle, Robert Fitzgerald attributed as author)
http://www.librarything.com/work/12247823

(various editions of the Oedipus plays, including the Fitzgerald translation)
http://www.librarything.com/work/2151

9brightcopy
Apr 19, 2012, 5:30 pm

Would you say the notes and commentary in the Fitzgerald edition aren't extensive enough to warrant a separate work?

(Serious question. I have no idea but just saw that such a difference existed.)

10spiphany
Apr 19, 2012, 5:57 pm

I don't think so -- I have a copy of this edition, but it's across the Atlantic, so I can't really check in detail, but I don't remember the notes/commentary being any more extensive than is usual for translations of classical works. I think the main reason they didn't end up together is because of the different author attribution.

11brightcopy
Apr 19, 2012, 6:34 pm

Sounds good - done. Looks like it has Fitzgerald already listed as an other author, too.

12picturebookperson
Mag 4, 2012, 4:14 pm

Please combine these two
http://www.librarything.com/work/10964354
http://www.librarything.com/work/10964416

The message says they are too big. Thanks.

13brightcopy
Mag 4, 2012, 4:53 pm

Done.

14jbd1
Mag 24, 2012, 6:14 pm

Somebody emailed me about combining http://www.librarything.com/work/12547264 and http://www.librarything.com/work/1526 - I can do it, but before I do I want to make sure there's not some reason I'm not seeing that they're separate ... anyone?

15brightcopy
Mag 24, 2012, 6:27 pm

Well, I note that the 3,000 member one is only for one ISBN: 0140268863. That ISBN shows up in hundreds of copies on the other work. So it seems like a slam dunk.

What's odd is that I never knew the editions were case sensitive. The 3,000 member work is:

The Odyssey / Homer (ISBN 0140268863)

Yet in the 20,000 member work, there's:

the odyssey / homer (ISBN 0140268863)
The odyssey / Homer (ISBN 0140268863)

Everything identical except for case. Not sure I understand why editions shouldn't roll up regardless of case.

16jbd1
Mag 24, 2012, 6:28 pm

Cool. Just wanted to make sure I wasn't missing something. And that is interesting about the cases ... odd.

17jjmcgaffey
Lug 23, 2012, 6:21 pm

I've got a pair - as far as I can tell, they're identical. And I combined a few stray editions into the larger of the two, but these two are too large to handle. I don't see any disambiguation notes on either group.

http://www.librarything.com/work/34429
http://www.librarything.com/work/12572683

18r.orrison
Lug 24, 2012, 1:56 am

17: Done

19jjmcgaffey
Lug 24, 2012, 12:53 pm

Thanks!

20malloyd
Ago 1, 2012, 2:21 pm

I have two sets as I try to straighten out the editions of the Qur'an.

These three are editions of the N.J Dawood/Penguin translation
http://www.librarything.com/work/12857510
http://www.librarything.com/work/12857514
http://www.librarything.com/work/12857523

And these two are the apparently public domain Abdullah 'Usuf Ali translation - and yes, they are basically the same work despite the titles - "translating" the Qur'an is apparently considered impossible by some publishers, but you can render it's "meaning" in another language.
http://www.librarything.com/work/6343050
http://www.librarything.com/work/5768859

21henkl
Ago 1, 2012, 3:04 pm

#20 by malloyd> Done.

22Nicole_VanK
Ago 2, 2012, 1:33 am

"translating" the Qur'an is apparently considered impossible by some publishers, but you can render it's "meaning" in another language.

It seems to be a traditional Islamic stance on things, because of the holy status of the book itself. It's only really the Qur'an if the text is in the original Arabic - translations can be useful, but are mere approximation.

23Waldstein
Dic 23, 2012, 9:45 am

Am I right in thinking that two omnibus editions of Shakespeare's plays should be combined if they contain the very same plays, although there may be differences as regards editors, notes, introductions etc.?

If yes, then these two should be one:

http://www.librarything.com/work/68663
http://www.librarything.com/work/3317996

24eromsted
Dic 23, 2012, 9:57 am

>23 Waldstein:
Yes, done.

25aulsmith
Dic 31, 2012, 10:07 am

http://www.librarything.com/work/9776599
http://www.librarything.com/work/25918

Musa is the translator, not the author of the Inferno

26henkl
Dic 31, 2012, 10:15 am

#25 by aulsmith> Done.

27Nicole_VanK
Gen 6, 2013, 5:23 am

http://www.librarything.com/work/212110
http://www.librarything.com/work/29278

Well, at least, I see no reason why that set should be split off.

28Collectorator
Gen 6, 2013, 8:36 am

Questo membro è stato sospeso dal sito.

29aulsmith
Gen 26, 2013, 9:00 am

http://www.librarything.com/work/206202
www.librarything.com/work/21348

Michael Grant is the translator not the author of 206202

Thanks.

30jbd1
Modificato: Gen 26, 2013, 9:34 am

>29 aulsmith: - I don't think Grant's book is just a translation of Suetonius, though

ETA: Yeah, Graves' book is different, not a translation.

31jjmcgaffey
Gen 26, 2013, 9:44 am

Different how - does anyone know? If it's inspired by or a parody of or... those relationships could be entered in the Work Relationships. But as I don't know either Suetonius' book or Grant's, I can't enter it.

32DemetriosX
Gen 27, 2013, 6:42 am

IIRC (and I might not be), Grant's book is a more modern, scholarly look at the same 12 men covered by Suetonius. Less scandal, more sources (including Suetonius). This is then further complicated by the fact that Grant HAS written an introduction to at least one translation of Suetonius. But these two books definitely aren't the same.

33henkl
Gen 27, 2013, 7:01 am

A further complication: Grant also revised Graves' translation of Suetonius.

34aulsmith
Gen 27, 2013, 9:59 am

30-33: Okay, I'll leave the combining and splitting to experts. Damn author using the same title on different works

35Lman
Gen 31, 2013, 2:48 am

http://www.librarything.com/work/57666/93632992
http://www.librarything.com/work/6043/book/87655294
as far as I can see are the same.

There are a few single Gaiman that might be added but not sure...

36MarthaJeanne
Modificato: Gen 31, 2013, 3:40 am

One of those is a different work. I'm trying to separate that book out.

Done. There was also some CK to delete. Why there was Gaiman CK on the Aubrey Brief Lives when I only found a 0 copy edition of Sandman : Brief Lives, I don't quite understand. Could someone familiar with one or the other please check that the CK is now accurate?

http://www.librarything.com/work/57666
http://www.librarything.com/work/6043

Note that clicking on your first link will still make it look like Gaiman's book because of the book number.

Whoops, found a couple more using the ISBN.

37AnnieMod
Gen 31, 2013, 3:33 am

39AnnieMod
Gen 31, 2013, 3:48 am

Sorry - I meant the CK :)

40MarthaJeanne
Modificato: Gen 31, 2013, 3:52 am

I'm just glad I did it BEFORE the two were combined. It is hard enough going through a work that big without having to separate allllll those editions out of an even bigger one.

Thanks for checking the CK.

41Lman
Gen 31, 2013, 4:22 am

Wow! Thank you MarthaJeanne - I was uncomfortable sorting the CK out. I think that was my mistake...
It looks good now - to my untutored eyes.

42JerryMmm
Modificato: Gen 31, 2013, 4:53 am

#38 Think I fixed those 0 edition copies. The v2 didn't combine into the one you said it should, but they are all combined now.

Only combined, didn't do anything else. fyi.

43TheTwoDs
Feb 16, 2013, 8:28 am

I believe these should be combined, all are the same recent collection of Ishiguro's short fiction.

http://www.librarything.com/work/8179920
http://www.librarything.com/work/13335040
http://www.librarything.com/work/13335038

44henkl
Feb 16, 2013, 4:27 pm

45omargosh
Mar 3, 2013, 11:04 pm

I didn't even bother trying to get the "too much love" message (and I even know the secret combination method these days); such high numbers on a popular author made me nervous, so I want at least another set of eyes (and somebody else to press the button, haha):

http://www.librarything.com/work/12778649/editions
http://www.librarything.com/work/8948303/editions
http://www.librarything.com/work/12778653/editions

Thank you.

46henkl
Mar 4, 2013, 3:02 am

>45 omargosh:: Apparently, somebody combined 12778649 and 12778653. I have hesitations about further combining.

47MarthaJeanne
Mar 4, 2013, 5:05 am

I can't do it, but both seem to be the same - author, title AND isbn. I would say combine.

48henkl
Mar 4, 2013, 9:27 am

I think you're right. I combined them.

49omargosh
Mar 5, 2013, 3:13 am

Thank you, henkl and MarthaJeanne! Much appreciated.

50henkl
Mar 5, 2013, 3:17 am

My pleasure.

52henkl
Mag 6, 2013, 2:08 am

54Nicole_VanK
Mag 6, 2013, 4:11 am

> 53: Done.

55tros
Mag 11, 2013, 1:15 am


A. Merritt and Abraham Merritt are the same writer.
I tried combining them but got "too much love". Help! ;-)

56Nicole_VanK
Mag 11, 2013, 2:44 am

Currently there is only one A. Merriit left, but that page can - and until fairly recently did - also refer to Allison Merritt. That's why it was split and aliased.

Here's the discussion: http://www.librarything.com/topic/149002#3915172

Since it's very well possible that other books by Allison Merritt may turn up on it in future I think it's probably best to leave it that way.

I'm surprised you get the "too much love" message though. I thought that only applied to work combinations...

57tros
Modificato: Mag 11, 2013, 2:20 pm


Thanks, Matt. My books are now showing up.

58tsangal
Mag 24, 2013, 2:33 pm

Please combine these two works:
http://www.librarything.com/work/978
http://www.librarything.com/work/8671457

While one edition has the word "New" inserted in the title, these two works are revisions/editions of the same work.

Thanks!

59omargosh
Mag 25, 2013, 12:17 am

#58 by tsangal>
Confirmed in Amazon's "Look Inside" and combined.

60tsangal
Mag 26, 2013, 1:37 am

Thank you!

63Collectorator
Lug 14, 2013, 11:25 am

Questo membro è stato sospeso dal sito.

64Lman
Lug 20, 2013, 11:33 pm

These should be combined - could those with the power please check and fix?

http://www.librarything.com/work/3620553
http://www.librarything.com/work/7719708

65omargosh
Modificato: Lug 21, 2013, 12:01 am

#64 by Lman>
Somebody had put bad info in the Series and Canonical Title for 3620553, so I fixed that. They no longer should look like they need any combining. All the editions looks to be in their right place.

ETA: checked more of that user's CK history ... looks like an honest mistake; they're using CT to prevent series info from showing up. But it highlights the potential dangers of those overrides ... man would it have been a mess to separate again. :-)

66Lman
Lug 21, 2013, 12:01 am

>65 omargosh:
Thank you!

67fdholt
Ago 12, 2013, 8:50 pm

If anyone could figure out how to combine the copies of The Daily Show with Jon Stewart Presents America (The Book), the teacher's edition, I'd appreciate it. Have tried all kinds of things but nothing works.

http://www.librarything.com/work/14150364
http://www.librarything.com/work/14150371

There is also a regular edition which should not be combined with the above.

Thanks

68Collectorator
Ago 12, 2013, 8:52 pm

Questo membro è stato sospeso dal sito.

69fdholt
Ago 12, 2013, 9:03 pm

Bless you! After separating, I couldn't get it back together again.

70smcwl
Set 29, 2013, 10:44 pm

Please combine these two works:

http://www.librarything.com/work/3093889
http://www.librarything.com/work/14314058

I mistakenly separated the Dover Thrift (unabridged) editions from the main Adventures of Huckleberry Finn.

Thank you.

71henkl
Set 30, 2013, 10:14 am

#70 by smcwl> Done.

72Nicole_VanK
Modificato: Nov 11, 2013, 1:07 pm

http://www.librarything.com/work/72157 and http://www.librarything.com/work/14399053 should be combined I think. Thanks in advance.

73Collectorator
Nov 11, 2013, 1:11 pm

Questo membro è stato sospeso dal sito.

75r.orrison
Nov 12, 2013, 5:39 am

74: Done.

77Collectorator
Nov 13, 2013, 1:19 am

Questo membro è stato sospeso dal sito.

78AnnaClaire
Nov 13, 2013, 1:33 pm

During the summer I did some separating/recombining of Breakfast at Tiffany's -- I was reading it for class and somehow my copy, which includes some other short works as well, had ended up in the main version. Anyway, these need to be combined and the smaller version has 735 copies.

http://www.librarything.com/work/14059400
http://www.librarything.com/work/14059398

79Collectorator
Nov 13, 2013, 1:36 pm

Questo membro è stato sospeso dal sito.

80NinieB
Nov 13, 2013, 2:14 pm

Please combine these two works. They are both Mark Twain's Pudd'nhead Wilson, without any other works included. Thank you.

http://www.librarything.com/work/1797172
http://www.librarything.com/work/14455119

81skittles
Nov 13, 2013, 4:19 pm

#80: Done

82TheoClarke
Gen 11, 2014, 6:38 am

Please combine the following (all are the Author's preferred text of Neverwhere):
14623621, 14623622, 14623634, 14623637, 14623628, 14623631, 14623614, 14623635, 14623636, 14623619, 14623617

83henkl
Gen 11, 2014, 9:25 am

#82 by TheoClarke> Done.

84SimoneA
Feb 3, 2014, 8:37 am

Please combine http://www.librarything.com/work/14636713 and http://www.librarything.com/work/10164. They are the same work, but somehow they are separated. Thank you!

85omargosh
Feb 3, 2014, 9:10 am

#84 by SimoneA>
Done

86Matteocalosi
Mag 5, 2014, 9:56 pm

The Gulag Archipelago situation seems kinda impossible to fully get straight but several of the most popular Solzhenitsyn works seem to need to be combined. These all have 200+ copies.

These three works seem to be all clearly Parts I-II and should be merged:
http://www.librarything.com/work/8252836
http://www.librarything.com/work/14422264
http://www.librarything.com/work/14422267

The edition which contains by far the most copies in the hodgepodge in which all vaguely titled editions have been combined: http://www.librarything.com/work/3580861/editions had the ISBN 0060007761 which seems to any search to simply be the abridged one volume edition.
I separated it to: http://www.librarything.com/work/14978056 but it needs to be combined with the main entry of the abridged English language one volume edition: http://www.librarything.com/work/9338373.

87henkl
Mag 6, 2014, 4:15 am

88Crypto-Willobie
Giu 9, 2014, 1:42 pm

Please combine these two works
http://www.librarything.com/work/14381781/editions
http://www.librarything.com/work/995/editions/55725902
(These are editions of Tolstoy's War and Peace)

It has been agreed on this thread http://www.librarything.com/topic/175422 (posts 19-24) that they belong together.
Thanks

89henkl
Giu 9, 2014, 1:47 pm

90DuncanHill
Giu 13, 2014, 5:00 pm

I believe these two should be combined, they are both "I and Thou" by Martin Buber.

https://www.librarything.com/work/3510
https://www.librarything.com/work/14595015

Thanks

91henkl
Giu 13, 2014, 6:00 pm

92DuncanHill
Giu 13, 2014, 7:00 pm

Thank you :)

93wester
Lug 18, 2014, 12:27 pm

The Routledge Classics version of the Phenomenology of Perception
http://www.librarything.com/work/15003005
has become separated from all other versions
https://www.librarything.com/work/25216

I don't see any reason they should be separated. As a matter of fact, they aren't, even at this moment: the "general" version also includes several copies of the Routledges Classics version.

94henkl
Lug 18, 2014, 3:18 pm

I agree; I combined them.

95TerenceHearsay
Lug 18, 2014, 7:02 pm

The following two works by Joseph Conrad both comprise the very same three stories (Youth; Heart of Darkness; The End of the Tether) and should be combined:

https://www.librarything.com/work/287895
https://www.librarything.com/work/6793173

96henkl
Lug 19, 2014, 2:18 am

97TerenceHearsay
Ago 5, 2014, 8:17 am

Isaac Asimov, The Bicentennial Man and Other Stories:

https://fi.librarything.com/work/1856102
https://fi.librarything.com/work/4105360

98henkl
Ago 5, 2014, 9:33 am

100MarthaJeanne
Modificato: Ago 12, 2014, 11:14 am

Some of those are just Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens. Others are Peter Pan AND Peter Pan in Kensington Gardens.

Looking in Editions there is a lot of separating needed.

1012wonderY
Modificato: Ago 12, 2014, 11:14 am

Oh, I thought I had winnowed them properly. Sorry.

Ah! I see. Some have been mis-combined in the past. Back to work...

103r.orrison
Ago 14, 2014, 2:11 am

102: Done

104leselotte
Set 5, 2014, 5:12 pm

105henkl
Set 5, 2014, 5:18 pm

106leselotte
Set 5, 2014, 5:37 pm

107henkl
Set 5, 2014, 5:42 pm

>106 leselotte: Done.

My pleasure, leselotte.

108aulsmith
Set 7, 2014, 1:05 pm

Assuming the disambiguation notice on

http://www.librarything.com/work/10653395

is correct (I would seriously dispute this, as it assumes that we are all cataloging books, rather than single elements of collections or things we read (or in the case of theater sometimes viewed)), the following two works should be combined:

http://www.librarything.com/work/15311690
http://www.librarything.com/work/14424992

Otherwise a lot of separation and recombining will be required.

109AndreasJ
Set 16, 2014, 4:50 am

These works are both, near as I can tell, the second half of The Eye of the World. The disambiguation notice on the former dissuades from combining with the first part or the whole book, but these two are both the second part:

https://www.librarything.com/work/4307377
https://www.librarything.com/work/14576479

110Petroglyph
Set 16, 2014, 5:12 am

112henkl
Set 30, 2014, 2:27 am

113leselotte
Ott 17, 2014, 12:04 pm

Please:

http://www.librarything.com/work/1663933

http://www.librarything.com/work/14279070

Both contain "The Awakening" only.
Thanks in advance!

114leselotte
Ott 17, 2014, 12:24 pm

And these 2, they contain the same selection of stories:

http://www.librarything.com/work/5761326

http://www.librarything.com/work/14240778

Thanks again!

115henkl
Ott 17, 2014, 3:44 pm

117Collectorator
Ott 25, 2014, 2:18 pm

Questo membro è stato sospeso dal sito.

118hreineke
Ott 26, 2014, 11:15 am

119henkl
Modificato: Ott 26, 2014, 11:29 am

>118 hreineke: In work/28224 the german translation of The size of thoughts has been combined with U and I. So I think some separating should be done before combining.

120leselotte
Ott 27, 2014, 6:34 pm

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/15444042

http://www.librarything.com/work/15443989

Both contain the same 4 stories. A few seperations still wait to be done, but it's almost midnight and my bed is calling me!

Thanks in advance!

>119 henkl:: I don't see anything wrong with those two entries. According to my sources, "U und I. Wie groß sind die Gedanken?" is indeed a translation of "U and I. A True Story".

121Collectorator
Ott 27, 2014, 7:15 pm

Questo membro è stato sospeso dal sito.

122leselotte
Ott 28, 2014, 3:23 am

>121 Collectorator: Thanks, looking good!

Also, these two contain the same 16 stories (again, a bit of finetuning is needed after combining - I won't have a whole lot of free time till maybe Thursday night, though):

http://www.librarything.com/work/15252592

http://www.librarything.com/work/9437382

123spiphany
Ott 28, 2014, 4:29 am

> 119, 120: I checked the table of contents on Amazon, it looks to me like the German book contains two works originally published separately in English ("U and I" and "The Size of Thoughts"). I didn't find any German books which contain just one of the two.

So yes, there needs to be some separating (gotta run just now or I'd do it), but we need a work-work relationship and a disambiguation notice, not combining.

124Collectorator
Ott 28, 2014, 5:03 am

Questo membro è stato sospeso dal sito.

125henkl
Ott 28, 2014, 6:34 am

>120 leselotte: But U and I and The Size of Thoughts are definitely not the same work.

>123 spiphany: Thanks for the clarification.

126leselotte
Ott 28, 2014, 9:39 am

>125 henkl: etc. Yes, you were right! All my catalogues are treating this book as if it contained only one work; only one (which I didn't look at before I answered) said it contained 2 publications (but not which). A review on the German Amazon confirms it!
Awesome that you caught it, henkl!

127henkl
Ott 28, 2014, 10:34 am

>126 leselotte: I'm glad I did. To be frank, I'm inclined to trust you blindly, but I still check.

128Waldstein
Modificato: Gen 21, 2015, 5:39 pm

Questo messaggio è stato cancellato dall'autore.

129SimoneA
Gen 16, 2015, 8:31 am

Someone has split off editions of Breakfast at Tiffany's, which I guess belong together. One of them is here http://www.librarything.com/work/15372674, the rest is in the suggested editions. Thank you!

130jjwilson61
Gen 16, 2015, 9:33 am

>129 SimoneA: The one's with Blake Edwards as the author would be the movie and shouldn't be combined.

131SimoneA
Gen 16, 2015, 10:07 am

Oh, I definitely realized that! But I think the ones with ISBN 0140274111 are all the book by Capote.

132DuncanHill
Gen 16, 2015, 10:29 am

Yes, ISBN 0140274111 is a Penguin edition of the novel, all the entries for it should be combined with the main entry.

133arjaygee
Gen 20, 2015, 3:26 pm

henkl:: A very belated thank you!

134henkl
Gen 20, 2015, 3:44 pm

135SimoneA
Modificato: Gen 28, 2015, 7:06 am

I noticed that one large edition of The Da Vinci Code (http://www.librarything.com/work/15665121/editions) has been separated from the main work (http://www.librarything.com/work/3123767). Could someone recombine them please? Thanks!

Also, there is still one edition from Breakfast at Tiffany's (http://www.librarything.com/work/15372674/editions) that needs to be combined into the main work (http://www.librarything.com/work/6776186). Thanks again!

136henkl
Gen 28, 2015, 8:58 am

>135 SimoneA: Combined the Da Vinci Codes. Didn't combine the Breakfast at Tiffany'ses: according to WorldCat #15372674 (ISBN 0140274111) contains Breakfast at Tiffany's, House of flowers, A diamond guitar and A Christmas memory.

137SimoneA
Modificato: Gen 28, 2015, 11:29 am

>136 henkl: Ok, thanks! I guess the Breakfast at Tiffany'ses will need some work then, beacuse editions with this ISBN are all over the place...

138r.orrison
Modificato: Gen 28, 2015, 12:19 pm

I would still combine it if it's cataloged with just the title "Breakfast at Tiffany's".

Which is more likely?
a) Someone searched for Breakfast at Tiffany's, found something with that ISBN, then edited the title to reflect what they actually had, or
b) Someone searched for Breakfast at Tiffany's, edited the ISBN to match their copy, but didn't bother to edit the title?

When the title and ISBN disagree, I always go with the title.

I would combine http://www.librarything.com/work/15372674 and http://www.librarything.com/work/6776186 without hesitation*.

* Well, I'm hesitating a little to see if anyone can convince me otherwise.

1392wonderY
Gen 28, 2015, 12:22 pm

If it's just one or two someones, it would be polite to ask them what they meant. I've had success doing that.

140DuncanHill
Modificato: Gen 28, 2015, 1:29 pm

There's still another Breakfast at Tiffany's www.librarything.com/work/15372671 which needs to be combined with the main entry.

141henkl
Gen 28, 2015, 2:52 pm

>138 r.orrison: But the title is just "Breakfast at Tiffany's"; yet it contains those three other stories. See http://www.worldcat.org/title/breakfast-at-tiffanys/oclc/60220409&referer=br....

143r.orrison
Gen 29, 2015, 2:00 am

But the title is just "Breakfast at Tiffany's

Got it. That's cruel.

144DuncanHill
Mar 7, 2015, 11:32 am

"Endgame & Act Without Words" by Samuel Beckett:

www.librarything.com/work/10653395

and

www.librarything.com/work/15311690

need combining please.

145henkl
Mar 7, 2015, 2:10 pm

146DuncanHill
Mar 7, 2015, 3:18 pm

Thanks Henkl

147jasbro
Mar 10, 2015, 8:04 am

Question: Would it help or hinder to fold this thread into https://www.librarything.com/topic/186484 for further combing requests & discussions? They appear to be serving much the same purpose, but the others been going on awhile longer. Your choice; I'm just along for the ride. Thanks, folks!

148MarthaJeanne
Mar 10, 2015, 8:13 am

I think it's better to keep them separate.

149shadowelf76
Mag 15, 2015, 6:31 am

Please combine:

http://www.librarything.com/work/878/work/118410995
http://www.librarything.com/work/16003078

They're the same book. Deception Point is the english version, Meteor is the German (and some other languages) translation. I got jumpy and started breaking them off before I checked, and now I can't fix it myself *sigh* I fixed all the others, but I couldn't put this one back in.

On a semi-side note, any suggestion on how to deal with that? Should "Meteor" be listed in the CK Other Titles field? I can't find any english name that it was ever sold under, but "Meteor" looks english and totally different from "Deception Point", which is why I messed it up in the first place. To further that, I know all the other things currently combined with "Deception Point" are the same book (I checked) but a lot of them obviously translate to something drastically different than "Deception Point" (i.e. "la conspiracion" translates to neither "Deception Point" or "Meteor" but it's the same work). So should those be put in Other Titles too, or since I use the english site, should they not be since they aren't english?

Feel free to refer me to another thread if there's one on that topic. I'm not much of a forum poster and don't really know where to ask, so here seemed good since I was already typing.

150jasbro
Mag 15, 2015, 11:36 am

>149 shadowelf76: Done.

On Alternative Titles, LT's note asks that we "Avoid titles already listed as the Canonical or Original titles as well as foreign-language titles available on the 'Details' tab." Accordingly, Meteor might be used as the Canonical Title on the German site, and Deception Point as the Original Title, but it shouldn't be included as an Alternative Title on the English site.

If you're interested to see more about combining, you might also take a look at http://www.librarything.com/topic/189901 .

Thank you!

151shadowelf76
Mag 15, 2015, 12:30 pm

Ok, that works. Thanks for the answer and the combining. :)

152lorax
Mag 15, 2015, 3:16 pm

>149 shadowelf76:

I'd put a note in the Disambiguation Notice. That's where I've put things like "Title X was published in the UK as Title Y. The contents are the same and they should remain combined."

153shadowelf76
Mag 26, 2015, 1:31 am

Ah! Great idea! Thanks :)

Sorry for the apparent slow reply. I thought I posted one already but I guess the internet ate it. So now I feel bad for evidently not saying thanks, so here it is again.

154DanieXJ
Mag 31, 2015, 4:23 pm

I have one if some nice person would combine them. It's The Silent Girl main entry and the Silent Girl trade paperback entry:

http://www.librarything.com/work/10611699
and
http://www.librarything.com/work/15935856

It is for all intents and purposes the same book. Sometimes there's Paperback copies that have excerpts from future books too (nearly every Rollins Paperback is like that, either an excerpt or a short story in the Trade Paperback edition) and from what I can see), are we supposed to split everything into it's exact edition now?

The paperback Silent Girl also has a 'contained within' entry that shows Freaks as well.

155jasbro
Giu 3, 2015, 12:29 am

What's the LT consensus on combining or distinguishing between editions with and without a bonus chapter?

156MarthaJeanne
Modificato: Giu 3, 2015, 1:37 am

My opinion is that a chapter from the next book is back of the book advertising that may or may not be there in other copies with the same ISBN. I don't think we have the information to keep them separate.

But in this case it is an extra short story that is mentioned in most of the titles. I wouldn't combine these. Someone entering the contained within information indicates that at least one member sees that as significant.

157aulsmith
Giu 3, 2015, 8:07 am

>156 MarthaJeanne: I agree with MarthaJeanne

158Cynfelyn
Giu 14, 2015, 3:10 pm

Harry Potter and the philosopher's stone (80,341 members):
http://www.librarything.com/work/5403381

Harry Potter y la piedra filosofal (577 members):
http://www.librarything.com/work/16037917

The main work already includes 212 copies of the Spanish translation. Please combine.

159JerryMmm
Giu 14, 2015, 6:05 pm

Strange that it wasn't combined then. Perhaps someone separated it by mistake

160henkl
Giu 14, 2015, 6:11 pm

161al.vick
Giu 28, 2015, 10:09 pm

Should the two Yertle the Turtle works be combined?
http://www.librarything.com/work/2327556
http://www.librarything.com/work/14492436

I know that the first one says it is just Yertle the Turtle, (not "and other stories")
but looking at the editions, most of them seem to be "and other stories"

Or maybe just the editions that say "and other stories should be separated and combined
with the main Yertle the Turtle and Other Stories work?

Would be happy to help, but wondering what others think.

162MarthaJeanne
Giu 29, 2015, 1:32 am

I doubt that it has ever been published without the other stories.

163lorax
Giu 29, 2015, 9:41 am

>162 MarthaJeanne:

Agreed, and most of the covers show "And Other Stories". The exceptions are the "Talk-to-Me-Book" ones (and a modern version of the same concept). I'd vote for separating those out, if indicated, but leaving everything else together.

164jasbro
Modificato: Giu 30, 2015, 10:35 am

>163 lorax: I don't about Fisher-Price's "Talk-to-Me-Books," but a general on-line search for "yertle the turtle fisher price talk to me book" yielded this result:

This is a Dr. Seuss "Talk-To-Me" book, which has special sound discs laminated on the book pages. The book requires a #800 "Talk-To-Me" Player, which is a small hand-held battery-operated record player. When children place the player over the discs on the pages it plays sounds and voices of the storybook characters. See http://www.thisoldtoy.com/l_fp_set/toy-pages/0-99/16-book-YertleTheTurtle.html

It seems the key to whether we identify a Talk-to-Me-Book as being distinct from the corresponding original Work turns on whether its "play{ing} sounds and voices of the storybook characters" is more like an adaptation than it is like an audio book. If it's more like an adaptation, we would distinguish; if an audiobook, we combine. Either way, the Yertle the Turtle Talk-to-Me-Book appears to be No. 16 of a {Publisher?} Series -- so there may be more separating, combining and Series work to be done.

Is somebody following this thread familiar enough with Talk-to-Me-Books to advise, or would it profit us to privately ask some Member(s) who have Talk-to-Me-Books cataloged?

Thanks for your time, interest, thoughts & consideration -- and Happy Tuesday to y'all!

ETA correction of egregious, albeit inadvertent, errors.

165al.vick
Giu 30, 2015, 10:54 am

Sounds like the talk-to-me editions should be separated out and the others combined. Which I think is still to many copies for me to do myself. I'll separate out the talk to me editions though.

166al.vick
Giu 30, 2015, 10:55 am

Guess that was already done! Thanks!

167lorax
Giu 30, 2015, 11:34 am

>164 jasbro:

The question for me isn't whether the "Talk-To-Me" books are unlike audiobooks, but whether they contain anything other than the one story. As far as I can tell all print editions include not only "Yertle" but also the "Other Stories"; I don't know whether that's the case for the Talk-To-Mes.

168jasbro
Lug 2, 2015, 8:19 am

>167 lorax: Understood and agreed. Both questions -- whether a particular record reflects an adaptation, or an edition including the "Other Stories" -- relate to content. Works having the same content should be combined; Works having different content should be distinguished. Thank you!

169smcwl
Lug 7, 2015, 1:50 am

Could someone please combine 2 works by Truman Capote:

Array, 15372671, 15372674

These works have identical titles, ISBNs, and author.

Thank you!

170henkl
Lug 7, 2015, 2:22 am

172henkl
Lug 7, 2015, 4:38 pm

>171 MarthaJeanne: Done, with pleasure.

173MarthaJeanne
Lug 7, 2015, 4:46 pm

>172 henkl: Thank you.

174smcwl
Lug 7, 2015, 6:15 pm

Thank You

175amysisson
Ago 14, 2015, 3:43 pm

Hello! Please combine these three works:

http://www.librarything.com/work/16309643
http://www.librarything.com/work/16309685
http://www.librarything.com/work/1772538

(FYI, this came about because this was incorrectly combined with a boxed paperback set of three books. I was able to separate these out with some help from others, and combined what I could back into the standalone title, but now I'm hitting the 200 copy limit on these three.)

Thanks in advance!

176henkl
Modificato: Ago 14, 2015, 5:10 pm

>175 amysisson: Done. I also corrected the work-to-work relationships.

177amysisson
Ago 14, 2015, 8:34 pm

>176 henkl:

I don't quite know what you mean (about correcting the work-to-work relationships), but THANK YOU!

178AnnieMod
Ago 14, 2015, 8:42 pm

>177 amysisson:

There is a section on the work page where you can tell LT which work is connected to the one you are working on -- in the case of omnibi, to connect the individual novel to the omnibus. Not that this anything functionally yet but at least they can be connected so people can see which books are inside of it from the work page :)

179SimoneA
Ago 28, 2015, 7:48 am

Someone separated a large edition from The Time Traveller's Wife: http://www.librarything.com/work/15958382 & http://www.librarything.com/work/3067. Can someone please combine them again? Thanks!

180Collectorator
Ago 28, 2015, 10:13 am

Questo membro è stato sospeso dal sito.

181SimoneA
Ago 28, 2015, 11:19 am

182SimoneA
Ott 15, 2015, 6:35 am

Could someone please combine http://www.librarything.com/work/15293530 with the main work http://www.librarything.com/work/26527? Thank you!

183.Monkey.
Ott 15, 2015, 8:23 am

184SimoneA
Ott 15, 2015, 8:46 am

>183 .Monkey.: Thank you!

185scott_beeler
Nov 10, 2015, 11:42 am

I believe that two entries for Neil Gaiman and Charles Vess's "Stardust" should be merged: http://www.librarything.com/work/13264184/editions/1265369 and http://www.librarything.com/work/16720520/editions
The latter version only contains a single edition which has an ISBN which is already included several times in the former version, and there's no warning note on the latter indicating it is any type of special version which should be kept separate.

Note that the un-illustrated version of "Stardust" has been kept separate (notes as such in the entries) and I think it should remain that way, as the Vess version is extensively illustrated (not just one per chapter or such) and I think that makes it significantly different.
http://www.librarything.com/work/3574878/editions

186lorax
Nov 10, 2015, 1:35 pm

>185 scott_beeler:

The text is different between the Gaiman and Vess graphic novel and the text-only adaptation of Stardust as well; there is obviously much more visual description in the text-only adaptation that would be unnecessary in the original.

187jasbro
Nov 11, 2015, 12:35 pm

>185 scott_beeler:, >186 lorax: I presume we'll disambiguate?

188lorax
Nov 11, 2015, 2:13 pm

>187 jasbro:

I disambiguated years and years ago, unless someone has removed it.

189JerryMmm
Nov 11, 2015, 2:28 pm

>188 lorax: Someone disagrees with you apparently.

190scott_beeler
Nov 12, 2015, 1:36 am

Yes, there seems to be some disagreement within the disambig note for the non-illustrated version (item #3574878). But the notes are there, clarifying what the two versions (item #3574878 and #13264184) are and alerting someone who might think they represent the same thing.

But regardless of that, item #16720520 (a third large entry for "Stardust" with the ISBN of the illustrated version) should be merged into the illustrated version item #13264184 as I mentioned in post #185, if someone is willing to take care of that.

191henkl
Nov 12, 2015, 4:05 am

192scott_beeler
Nov 12, 2015, 10:30 am

Great, thanks.

193drnqs
Gen 1, 2016, 10:13 am

I think these two should be combined, for all editions that contain all of Shakespeare's poems:
http://www.librarything.com/work/3317068
http://www.librarything.com/work/44259

194JerryMmm
Gen 1, 2016, 10:45 am

You;re suggesting someone should remove the editions that don't explicitly say they're the non-narrative poems and combine with the sonnets and poems?

195drnqs
Gen 2, 2016, 8:00 pm

Actually, I'm confused now. I just don't think there's a distinction in terms of content between the editions with the word "narrative" in the title and the others - they all contain all of Shakespeare's non-dramatic poetry. The idea was to simply combine the two works (without excluding any editions).

196leselotte
Modificato: Gen 15, 2016, 1:13 pm

This edition of Harry Potter and the Philosopher's Stone has been separated from the main work (not by me):

http://www.librarything.com/work/16991586/editions

Should be here:
http://www.librarything.com/work/5403381/editions

Thanks in advance!

197omargosh
Gen 15, 2016, 2:40 pm

>196 leselotte:
should be back together again

198leselotte
Gen 15, 2016, 3:41 pm

It is! Thanks a lot!

199ABVR
Gen 19, 2016, 12:16 am

These are the same book (The Affair with a bonus short story, "Second Son") down to the ISBN:

http://www.librarything.com/work/16744147
http://www.librarything.com/work/16744208

Could someone please combine them?

200henkl
Gen 19, 2016, 4:28 am

201souloftherose
Giu 8, 2016, 2:53 pm

I think these two copies of The Giver by Lois Lowry should be combined:

http://www.librarything.com/work/17879042
http://www.librarything.com/work/9726954

202omargosh
Giu 8, 2016, 3:13 pm

203valkyrdeath
Giu 8, 2016, 9:08 pm

Could these two copies of Last Chance to See by Douglas Adams be combined please?

https://www.librarything.com/work/17691795
https://www.librarything.com/work/5827

204omargosh
Giu 8, 2016, 11:03 pm

205jasbro
Modificato: Giu 8, 2016, 11:53 pm

This thread is now CLOSED. Please continue our discussions under:

Blocks to combining that affects large numbers of copies (Sorry, too much love!) #2,

which is found at http://www.librarything.com/topic/224493. Thank you!

206ArrowStead
Modificato: Feb 28, 2022, 2:20 pm

Edited to delete - Sorry!