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1majkia
Dic 22, 2011, 9:19 pm

Hullo All. Just recently found this group, and thought perhaps you could give me some pointers.

I haven't been reading any mysteries (well hardly any) for quite a few years so feel I don't know much about more recent authors. I'm looking for suggestions for books, or series, that are more cerebral in nature.

Authors of mysteries that I enjoy: Anne Perry, Elizabeth George, Dorothy Sayers, Ngaio Marsh, Marjorie Allingham - hmm. All women. Odd.

I like historical settings, although contemporary is fine too. I like strong women, characters that are fleshed out, and complex villains who aren't all black (and heroes that aren't all white). Exotic settings a plus.

I've got a few books in my wishlist that I've seen mentioned around LT but wondered if you all could help me narrow my search.

Thanks in advance.

2quartzite
Dic 22, 2011, 11:47 pm

My go to rec is Reginald Hill's Dalziel and Pascoe boks. Also I saw you left of P.D. James queen of cerebral. If you like a little humor try the four by Sarah Caudwell and you might enjoy the Lydmouth series byAndrew Taylor and the Inspector Morse by Colin Dexter, Stephen Booth and John Harvey.

That Sarah Caudwell touchstone is acting up Thus Was Adonis Murdered for a title.

3mysterymax
Dic 23, 2011, 10:55 am

Charles Todd - post WWI.

4manyknits
Dic 23, 2011, 2:03 pm

E. X. Ferrars will supply lots of alternative motives, solutions, possibilities, from each of her characters.

5majkia
Dic 23, 2011, 4:05 pm

Thanks so much for the suggestions. Taking notes :)

WRT PD James, I have read some of hers, but so very long ago I couldn't remember much about them. The others I shall investigate!

6manyknits
Dic 25, 2011, 12:59 am

My all-time favorite should suit you: Michael Innes.

7tros
Dic 25, 2011, 10:42 am

Maurice Proctor wrote some great police procedurals.

Can't beat Reginald Hill for cerebral!

8DowntownLibrarian
Modificato: Apr 2, 2012, 11:37 pm

This is not British or Irish, but I highly recommend the Commissaire Adamsberg mysteries of Fred Vargas. They are beautifully written (and translated) and complex; feature fascinating folklore; and the characters are wonderful.

9majkia
Apr 3, 2012, 8:21 am

#8 Thanks! I've added the first one to the wishlist.

10thorold
Apr 3, 2012, 12:33 pm

Nicholas Freeling might be another possibility, if you are prepared to include a British writer who set practically all his stories either in Holland or in Alsace (I think there's one of the Van der Valk stories set in Dublin...).

11pmarshall
Modificato: Apr 4, 2012, 8:04 am

Peter McGarr Mystery series by Bartholomew Gill. These are police procedurals that take place in Ireland.

12clue
Giu 7, 2012, 1:54 pm

Take a look at C. J. Sansom, the first in the series is Dissolution.

13sesgreen25
Ago 1, 2012, 9:58 am

Maisie Dobbs series by Jacqueline Winspear. She's a private dectective in the years after World War I. Interesting to compare with Dorothy Sayers. Additionally, Jill Paton Walsh has written a couple of sequels to the Wimsey series--not bad.

14rretzler
Ott 10, 2012, 11:55 am

I have very similar tastes to you - Elizabeth George. Ngaio Marsh, Dorothy Sayers and Marjorie Allingham. I've not read much by Anne Perry yet. I also highly enjoy Martha Grimes's Richard Jury and Melrose Plant series, and Deborah Crombie's Duncan Kincaid & Gemma James.

Martha Grimes's are witty and her characterizations are very good. When I read a new Jury and Plant novel, I feel as though they are good friends that I haven't seen for some time. Deborah Crombie reminds me a little of Elizabeth George.

I also enjoy quite a few of the others listed - Reginald Hill's Dalziel & Pascoe are particular favorites. Along those lines, perhaps not quite as cerebral, but good nonetheless is Peter Lovesey's Peter Diamond series and Hen Malin series.

P.D. James 's Dalgleish series is wonderful, and I also enjoy her few Cordelia Grey novels. Jacqueline Winspear is not bad, I don't enjoy her as much as some of the others.

Peter Robinson and Caroline Graham are also not bad - probably second tier to the others mentioned, but certainly good reads - they both write about Inspectors in Britian. I know that a lot of people like Ruth Rendell, haven't read much of hers, but she is another along these lines.

Georgette Heyer is another of the "Queen's of Crime' along with Marsh, Sayer, and Agatha Christie, whom you do not mention, but I assume that you have read.

Along more modern lines, I have really enjoyed Alan Bradley's Flavia de Luce series, which is set in 1950's England.

Take a glance at the mysteries on my profile, since we have similar taste, you may find some others that you like.

15majkia
Ott 11, 2012, 10:27 am

Thanks for all the great suggestions!

I have read most of the Richard Jury series and am now even re-reading them. Also, yes, I've read most of Christie. I've read Georgette Heyer ages ago (I think) but not her mysteries, I don't believe. I've got a few of them now in the TBR.

I've tried the first Reginald Hill on audio and really didn't much care for the reader. I can't find a reasonably priced ebook for book 2 but if I do I'll continue that series.

I've read Maisie Dobbs and really enjoyed it so will continue with that series sometime or other.

Also have read Dissolution and will continue that series.

Will investigate Nicolas Freeling, Fred Vargas, Maurice Proctor Sarah Cauldwell and Peter McGarr.

Colin Dexter, Stephen Booth and John Harvey are all in either my TBR or Wishlist.

16rretzler
Ott 11, 2012, 6:10 pm

Unfortunately, with the earlier Reginald Hill books, they were out of print for a while. Felony & Mayhem started republishing them just a few years ago, and were only publishing them a few at a time. I don't think many are out in ebook format - I know I had to either pick them up from my library, and for the earlier ones that had not been republished by Felony & Mayhem, I got them through Abe Books, half.com, or ebay.

Love to hear if you find anything else that you particularly enjoy.

17pinkozcat
Ott 13, 2012, 2:46 am

I have just rediscovered Cyril Hare and it is very cerebral; I suspect that I am being fed clues but have no idea whodunnit yet.

Has anyone mentioned Josephine Tey? Brilliant!

18gogglemiss
Ott 17, 2012, 9:22 am

I have just discovered Agatha Christie, after reading Endless Night. Wonderful. Will be reading more from her, hopefully.

19rretzler
Modificato: Ott 17, 2012, 10:11 pm

gogglemiss - Endless Night was a great Christie. You should also try: The Murder of Roger Ackroyd, And Then There Were None, Murder on the Orient Express, A Murder is Announced, The Mysterious Affair at Styles, The ABC Murders, Sad Cypress, Five Little Pigs and Crooked House which I believe are widely considered to be among her best novels.

Personally, I also enjoyed Murder at the Vicarage - it remains one of my favorites. After 40 plus years of reading Christie, she is still one of my favorite authors, and I still enjoy reading her books (I own almost every one!) In my opinion, although there are many, many great mystery writers out there, no one tops Christie.

I do hope you will get to enjoy the rest of her books.

20donnao
Ott 17, 2012, 6:18 pm

18> The A.B.C. Murders was my first Christie. How I envy you.

21rretzler
Ott 17, 2012, 10:12 pm

20> Could be a new topic - "Do you remember your first Christie?" I believe mine just happened to be Murder at the Vicarage!

22JaneAustenNut
Ott 30, 2013, 2:47 pm

> 19 I love Christie and have several of her works. I have all of the Miss Marples on DVD and some of the Poirot on DVD. I am an avid fan of Masterpiece Mystery and they often show Christie films. Hope this counts almost as good as reading them. I think Miss Marple is my favorite character from Christie's books. I love the time period in which these stories take place.

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